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I'm seeing a lot more defense of their behavior from you than condemnation.


Nobody is trying to silence anyone.


Why is this your defense? This is exactly the point I'm trying to make to you, is that you don't know what kind of effect such words may have on a person and you shouldn't presume that they're not harmful to someone just because they're not harmful to you.

We for a badass over here!
Neo Nazis and Nazis should be locked away and not given a plattform to spread their opinions in a democratic country.

I haven't defended his behavior, I have defended his right to be a douchebag, and decried anyone's perceived "right" to not be offended.


But it's ok to use out and out profanity and state that you wont remove it unless the person who offended you changes their post. I'm not seeing the difference.



It's not a defense, it's a statement of fact, correcting your stated assumption that "some people have endured more reality than I have. Stop with the logical fallacies.

I see what you're doing. I see it.


I'm eating some baby carrots right now and I'll be happy to share them with you.

But getting pulled into this discussion in happythread isn't going to happen. You know where my email is if you're really jonesing for a wall of text. There are many who can attest to my ability to deliver close to the 10,000 character limit on seemingly trivial and meaningless email debates.

On the subject of free speech...

You can say whatever you want to say. That's your right. It is also the right of those that hear what you say to criticise your speech, because they have free speech as well. So if you say something dickish, then you can bet your bottom dollar that someone is going to criticise you for it, because they have a right to. (The one that I'll respond to personally is when people call other people "autistic" because they do something bad - all it does is perpetuate negative connotations about autism and it makes you a complete **** if you do it).

If you want to cry "BUT FREE SPEECH!!" after someone has criticised what you've said, just remember, you've already said it. You've had your ******* free speech, and now it's someone else's turn to have theirs as well. If you support free speech, then you won't be a **** and try to deny the free speech of those that would criticise what you choose to do with it.

Freedom, in a society where we all depend on one another whether we realise it or not, comes with responsibility, especially social responsibility.

I apologize then for mischaracterizing you. Still, nobody has said that he doesn't have the right to be a douchebag, merely that he shouldn't be a douchebag.

There are lots of things you have the right to do and yet sometimes people need to be reminded not to do them because they're still ****** things to do.


I don't see how that's alike censorship at all. If you're arguing that I have a right to use slur words, then for the sake of consistency you should be arguing that I have a right to use profanity in opposition.


Maybe they have though. You don't know that.


You can complain about that too, but you'll have a harder time demonstrating emotional harm from profanity than from slurs.

You do realize that saying "logical fallacy" on the internet is just about the douchiest, e-hippster thing you can do...right? All you're missing are a few sprinklings of "false flag" and "oligarcy", and you'll have achieved full on derp status.

I agree 100% +1



I dont try to deny the free speech of those who wanna call a douchebag a douchebag, for that matter, I think you have the right to call anyone a douchebag, even a "nice person." But where I see a line drawn is where one of the posters implied approval of "hate criime" laws like they have in Germany, where exercising one's birthright of the freedom to speak ones mind can result in imprisonment. In this day and age! Now THAT is where even I get offended.



You were born free. You were not born with the "original sin" of signing some illusory "social contract."

EXACTLY

That being said, remember the spiel I posted earlier?

If someone finds something you've said offensive, they've got as much right to be offensive right on back at ya. And if you're just posting for the sake of being offensive, well... these forums are privately owned, and you use them under specific terms and conditions. One of them is that you forfeit your right to free speech in order to follow the rules of the forums. In which case, if this thread gets locked, which it probably will, you still can't cry "BUT MAI FREE SPEECH!!!" because it doesn't apply here.