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Why I hate this game and how it can be made better (or new game MvCCP)

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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#21 - 2014-08-22 07:19:06 UTC
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Commandante Caldari wrote:
It's pretty simple. EVE is special exactly because of what you hate. Without what you hate it would be a boring and non-exciting game for most of the players. So the logical conclusion is: CCP never will hear you. Therefore your posting might rated as trolling and you are forced to leave EVE and search for something what fits to your gameplay you are looking for.

Good luck!


I think you are missing the point that I am trying to make.

CCP should invest some of the money it makes into developing a separate game called MvCCP. Judging by the number of people who just mine ice belts and run Sanctums there has got to be a market for it.


Why should they do it? PvE is an important part of the game and splitting a game into two separate concepts isn't worth the effort and might fail what might kill a company like CCP.



keep eve for the asshats who enjoy the hattery and make a game for the rest of us
Spacewarp
Majorum Gnavita In Industria
#22 - 2014-08-22 07:19:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Spacewarp
metalravenous wrote:
I like the game concept of spreadsheets in space. I remember my first such outing and it was called Gazillionaire or some shiat.

The main problem with Eve is having to deal with sloths in alliance/alliance chat etc etc

please make EvE less everyone one vs and everyone and just make it so i can play against a computer like civ5 but better


Strange..... You can make your own corp, and even you own Alliance. Then you can play solo, and pretend all others being (bad Cool ) AI's

Even better i guess it would be a better solo game then any other solo game, since the AI's are at least not too predictable :)
Miranda Dalasoras
Anomalous Existence
#23 - 2014-08-22 07:19:17 UTC
mow hawk wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
I like the game concept of spreadsheets in space. I remember my first such outing and it was called Gazillionaire or some shiat.

The main problem with Eve is having to deal with sloths in alliance/alliance chat etc etc

please make EvE less everyone one vs and everyone and just make it so i can play against a computer like civ5 but better


What do you have against sloths?



I'm really sensing a deep set hatred for Baby Ruth underneath it all...

//too obscure?
Torneach Structor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-08-22 07:19:59 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
dirty douche nozzles


Nice one.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#25 - 2014-08-22 07:28:10 UTC
Spacewarp wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
I like the game concept of spreadsheets in space. I remember my first such outing and it was called Gazillionaire or some shiat.

The main problem with Eve is having to deal with sloths in alliance/alliance chat etc etc

please make EvE less everyone one vs and everyone and just make it so i can play against a computer like civ5 but better


Strange..... You can make your own corp, and even you own Alliance. Then you can play solo, and pretend all others being (bad Cool ) AI's

Even better i guess it would be a better solo game then any other solo game, since the AI's are at least not too predictable :)



That would still involve me having to deal with other actual people
Commandante Caldari
Best Kept Dunked
#26 - 2014-08-22 07:28:58 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Commandante Caldari wrote:
It's pretty simple. EVE is special exactly because of what you hate. Without what you hate it would be a boring and non-exciting game for most of the players. So the logical conclusion is: CCP never will hear you. Therefore your posting might rated as trolling and you are forced to leave EVE and search for something what fits to your gameplay you are looking for.

Good luck!


I think you are missing the point that I am trying to make.

CCP should invest some of the money it makes into developing a separate game called MvCCP. Judging by the number of people who just mine ice belts and run Sanctums there has got to be a market for it.


Why should they do it? PvE is an important part of the game and splitting a game into two separate concepts isn't worth the effort and might fail what might kill a company like CCP.



keep eve for the asshats who enjoy the hattery and make a game for the rest of us


It's easy to deal with those asshats when you have become a bigger fish in the game. It's even easy to rat in hostile space if you have experience and skills how to do it right.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#27 - 2014-08-22 07:30:28 UTC
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Commandante Caldari wrote:
It's pretty simple. EVE is special exactly because of what you hate. Without what you hate it would be a boring and non-exciting game for most of the players. So the logical conclusion is: CCP never will hear you. Therefore your posting might rated as trolling and you are forced to leave EVE and search for something what fits to your gameplay you are looking for.

Good luck!


I think you are missing the point that I am trying to make.

CCP should invest some of the money it makes into developing a separate game called MvCCP. Judging by the number of people who just mine ice belts and run Sanctums there has got to be a market for it.


Why should they do it? PvE is an important part of the game and splitting a game into two separate concepts isn't worth the effort and might fail what might kill a company like CCP.



keep eve for the asshats who enjoy the hattery and make a game for the rest of us


It's easy to deal with those asshats when you have become a bigger fish in the game. It's even easy to rat in hostile space if you have experience and skills how to do it right.



ratting is an example and 10/10 times issue isnt reds or neuts its your own alliance
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-08-22 07:30:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibyyl
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Well, on the positive. At least you aren't DDoSing the forum with a new DDoS server down thread.

Otherwise, lol. Single shard aint going away.

If you don't like the sloths in your alliance, find an alliance without sloths.

There are plenty of them out there.

If I found an alliance full of these guys I would never actually leave..



OP, have you considered Homeworld or StarControl 2?

Edit: Sorry, can't recommend either from personal experience, but SC2 looked fun when I watched someone else play it.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Commandante Caldari
Best Kept Dunked
#29 - 2014-08-22 07:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Commandante Caldari
metalravenous wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
But we insist on our rights to interact with you while you play with icebelts and sanctums.


I would gladly pay and play more if I didn't have to deal with all the dirty douche nozzles that seem to permeate every crack in this game.


Those dirty douche nozzles are called PvPer exploiting your lack of knowledge and experience. Take it as a challenge to find a way to get around those dirty douche nozzles. Asking for a separate PvE EVE doesn't work here. Blink
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#30 - 2014-08-22 07:37:29 UTC
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
But we insist on our rights to interact with you while you play with icebelts and sanctums.


I would gladly pay and play more if I didn't have to deal with all the dirty douche nozzles that seem to permeate every crack in this game.


Those dirty douche nozzles are called PvPer exploiting your lack of knowledge and experience. Take it as a challenge to find a way to get around those dirty douche nozzles. Asking for a separate PvE EVE doesn't work here. Blink


i m not asking for that separation. I am asking for a totally different game based off of eve but without having to deal with the idiots in the game...any lose ive had in terms of spaceships would be a cyno ship here or there....issue isnt the content its the people
Commandante Caldari
Best Kept Dunked
#31 - 2014-08-22 07:39:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Commandante Caldari
We have clever neutrals in our space running DED complexes in their nullified Tengu's all the time making billions easily. Most of them have a scout for additional security. In 99% of those cases you can't do anything against them if they are very experiences and they simply laugh at you and your useless sov space. Result: they rat all the time. We ignore them. Maybe some lucky guy will catch one of them randomly. But those billionares or trillionares don't care. Does this make sense?
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#32 - 2014-08-22 07:42:17 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
But we insist on our rights to interact with you while you play with icebelts and sanctums.


I would gladly pay and play more if I didn't have to deal with all the dirty douche nozzles that seem to permeate every crack in this game.


Being one of those dirty douche nozzles isn't why you play to begin with?

GTFO


\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#33 - 2014-08-22 07:42:54 UTC
Commandante Caldari wrote:
We have clever neutrals in our space running DED complexes in their nullified Tengu's all the time making billions easily. Most of them have a scout for additional security. In 99% of those cases you can't do anything against them if they are very experiences and they simply laugh at you and your useless sov space. Result: they rat all the time. We ignore them. Maybe some lucky guy will catch one of them randomly. But those billionares or trillionares don't care. Does this make sense?



This is an example of the type of person darkness is full of. I can keep explaining things to you but i can't you just lack any ability to understand, sad state of the world and of this game.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-08-22 07:45:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
May I preface my remarks to say the south isn't full of inbred retards? (I've read the threads about "my kid has "*" and I still used the word. Get over it.) Secondly, standing on a trestle above a river and diving off just as the train gets there could be said to be exciting. Then again, it could just be insane. Third, and lastly, the earth's rotation is slowing down due to the weight of all the undiscarded National Geographics. If the player base could digest these three facts,
EVE would be perfect.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Commandante Caldari
Best Kept Dunked
#35 - 2014-08-22 07:45:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Commandante Caldari
metalravenous wrote:
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
But we insist on our rights to interact with you while you play with icebelts and sanctums.


I would gladly pay and play more if I didn't have to deal with all the dirty douche nozzles that seem to permeate every crack in this game.


Those dirty douche nozzles are called PvPer exploiting your lack of knowledge and experience. Take it as a challenge to find a way to get around those dirty douche nozzles. Asking for a separate PvE EVE doesn't work here. Blink


i m not asking for that separation. I am asking for a totally different game based off of eve but without having to deal with the idiots in the game...any lose ive had in terms of spaceships would be a cyno ship here or there....issue isnt the content its the people


Define "Idiots". I am playing EVE for over 8 years. The only "idiots" I met in the game are noobs hauling afk in hi-sec, undocking in Jita without an insta, running careless through low- or null-sec without a scout etc. etc. Jita Scam Prime is rediculous. Who's not ignoring the scammers in local has to learn to ignore them. But honestly: those people are no "idiots". They are simply unexperienced with the game and its steep learning curve. Maybe those ones are "idiots" who are hauling again and again afk, who are too lazy to do an undock insta, who are jumping again and again with their faction BS into the same gate camp and posting whine threads on the forums about this. Those people exist. And it's good. Because this is entertainment.

The ones like campers or pirates where I thought in the beginning that these guys are asshats are mostly cool guys enjoying the game.

Finally: the ones who make EVE exciting are no idiots. They are people enjoying the challenge and complexity of EVE.

If you don't like this you shouln't play EVE. CCP never ever will do another EVE for the ones who can't deal with the EVIL-Online concept. Just accept it.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#36 - 2014-08-22 07:47:10 UTC
I feel you man, we should ban all nullified ships so we can actually defend space properly!

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#37 - 2014-08-22 07:48:14 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
May I preface my remarks to say the south isn't full of inbred retards? (I've read the threads about "my kid has "*" and I still used the word. Get over it.) Secondly, standing on a trestle above a river and diving off just as the train gets there could be said to be exciting. Then again, it could just be insane. Third, and lastly, the earth's rotation is slowing down due to the weight of all the undiscarded National Geographics. If the player base could digest these three facts,
EVE would be perfect.


my solution is simpler, no understanding required
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#38 - 2014-08-22 07:50:01 UTC
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
But we insist on our rights to interact with you while you play with icebelts and sanctums.


I would gladly pay and play more if I didn't have to deal with all the dirty douche nozzles that seem to permeate every crack in this game.


Those dirty douche nozzles are called PvPer exploiting your lack of knowledge and experience. Take it as a challenge to find a way to get around those dirty douche nozzles. Asking for a separate PvE EVE doesn't work here. Blink


i m not asking for that separation. I am asking for a totally different game based off of eve but without having to deal with the idiots in the game...any lose ive had in terms of spaceships would be a cyno ship here or there....issue isnt the content its the people


Define "Idiots". I am playing EVE for over 8 years. The only "idiots" I met in the game are noobs hauling afk in hi-sec, undocking in Jita without an insta, running careless through low- or null-sec without a scout etc. etc. Jita Scam Prime is rediculous. Who's not ignoring the scammers in local has to learn to ignore them. But honestly: those people are no "idiots". They are simply unexperienced with the game and its steep learning curve. Maybe those ones are "idiots" who are hauling again and again afk, who are too lazy to do an undock insta, who are jumping again and again with their faction BS into the same gate camp and posting whine threads on the forums about this. Those people exist. And it's good. Because this is entertainment.

The ones like campers or pirates where I thought in the beginning that these guys are asshats are mostly cool guys enjoying the game.

Finally: the ones who make EVE exciting are no idiots. They are people enjoying the challenge and complexity of EVE.

If you don't like this you shouln't play EVE. CCP never ever will do another EVE for the ones who can't deal with the EVIL-Online concept. Just accept it.



im sure the master behind tool tips could figure out some way to program an ai to do all of these things...im not asking for different play style, just get rid of the people
Commandante Caldari
Best Kept Dunked
#39 - 2014-08-22 08:04:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Commandante Caldari
metalravenous wrote:

im sure the master behind tool tips could figure out some way to program an ai to do all of these things...im not asking for different play style, just get rid of the people


You ask for EVE without PvP. Where noone can shoot each other but rat for ISK only. Where you just can lose ships to rats and CONCORD when you shoot someone by accident. Wait. You can shoot someone but nothing happens and noone can be killed. Where no PvP or big battles will give industry and trading a sense. Where every player will be a trillionare and the ISK is useless at the end. I guess you don't understand the game at all. You will get rid of people? Pro-Tip: get rid of EVE.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#40 - 2014-08-22 08:09:47 UTC
Commandante Caldari wrote:
metalravenous wrote:

im sure the master behind tool tips could figure out some way to program an ai to do all of these things...im not asking for different play style, just get rid of the people


You ask for EVE without PvP. Where noone can shoot each other but rat for ISK only. Where you just can lose ships to rats and CONCORD when you shoot someone by accident. Wait. You can shoot someone but nothing happens and noone can be killed. Where no PvP or big battles will give industry and trading a sense. Where every player will be a trillionare and the ISK is useless at the end. I guess you don't understand the game at all. You will get rid of people? Pro-Tip: get rid of EVE.



let me try to make it simpler for you

replace all players in eve with AI

its same game just no people

game play is same, everything is same just no people

same risk same everything just dont have to deal with idiots

problem solved
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