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50 Shades Of Brown

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William Walsh
Litla Sundlaugin
#1 - 2014-08-19 10:00:43 UTC
I would like to know what peoples thoughts are on the lack of ‘’new’’ content coming for Wormholers in Hyperion, not the mechanic changes but actual ‘’’new’’ things we have never seen before.

It is quite evident that CCP had no intention of listening to any of the player feedback on the Mass-based spawn distance thread. It was simply a means of damage mitigation by CCP, i.e. ‘’we are giving you this whether you like it or not but please feel involved in the process by posting on this thread’’. I mean come on guys really… 20 days before the launch are CCP going to start making changes?

What ticks me off more than this insult to our intelligence is the fact that CCP, by dropping the ball so badly (intentionally or unintentionally, I am not quite sure) has diverted the majority our attention away from something else………CCP have not actually created anything new for WH’s since 2008. So what can we eagerly anticipate in Hyperion? Some new content? Something all wormholers can get involved in, explore, experience, enjoy??? Unfortunately not. We are just getting the same content we have had for the last 6 years with different mechanics. It’s the cop out, the get around the great evasion of doing any real work and creating something new. The meeting for this mechanic may have gone something like this: ‘’ let’s just mix things up a little and see what happens’’ ‘’erm yeh ok sounds good to me’’. Meeting finished. I mean realistically that’s probably not how it went, but it would have given us the same outcome.

Now I would like to take you all on a journey with me, to a not so distant land occupied by United Systems Commonwealth, where an uncanny similarity occurred 2 Christmases ago. Its Christmas morning and young Alzuule is eagerly awaiting his Christmas presents. He is in for a real treat. CCP Santa has brought him an awesome remote control fire engine. It’s great, it makes loads of noise, its red, it fly’s around the living room and he loves it………

The following Christmas CCP Santa paints Alzuue’s fire engine brown and gives it him back…Well Merry Christmas!!!!!!!. CCP Santa then tells Alzuule, ‘’hey kid, its ok, don’t worry, this Christmas I didn’t give anyone new presents I just repainted their old ones brown. But there is this awesome online forum where you can go give me your feedback.

Alzuule races to the forum to tell Santa that he is a big red Christmas Grinch and that he should really re-consider giving kids back their old presents in a different colour as this might discredit him as a man responsible for bringing Christmas joy to all.
CCP Santa cannot be bothered to solve the problem properly because too many kids have complained, so he comes up with a cunning plan ...I will paint the all the toys a slightly different shade of brown and give them back. Problem solved.

Thank You and Good Night

P.S If you give me 1 billion isk I will paint things brown for you
Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2014-08-19 10:06:10 UTC
William Walsh wrote:

P.S If you give me 1 billion isk I will paint things brown for you


Like... with your ass?
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#3 - 2014-08-19 10:31:42 UTC
This is like an Allusion of Solipsism, which i believe is an alliance you neckbeards you all join to club together and make ISK in highsec somewhere.

Nothing new?

Frigate wormholes. BAM.
Jay Joringer
13.
#4 - 2014-08-19 10:34:16 UTC
This cannot be! Santa only gives presents to good little boys and girls. Alzuule is bad and doesn't deserve a fire engine.

(I'm onto you, Alzuule. Give William his account back)
William Walsh
Litla Sundlaugin
#5 - 2014-08-19 10:37:41 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
This is like an Allusion of Solipsism, which i believe is an alliance you neckbeards you all join to club together and make ISK in highsec somewhere.

Nothing new?

Frigate wormholes. BAM.



We already have wormholes....making them smaller etc etc doesn't make it new
Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-08-19 11:05:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Borsek
We just need new modules, or even ammo, based on sleeper tech. Make it so the relic and data sites for these new equipment only drop in non-cap holes, and you've helped two areas at once.
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-08-19 11:13:32 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:


Frigate wormholes. BAM.


3 alts in smartbomb BS on the incoming. BAM - automatic killmail generator

[X] < Nail here for new monitor

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#8 - 2014-08-19 11:15:57 UTC
okst666 wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:


Frigate wormholes. BAM.


3 alts in smartbomb BS on the incoming. BAM - automatic killmail generator


Quite obviously you nevr tried to smartbomb next to a wormhole yet.
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-08-19 11:20:36 UTC  |  Edited by: okst666
meh..get close to it as near as possible to make the SB work.
Afaik you have to be at 6000m from the Wh and the smartbombs haev 6 - 7 kilometers range...so it should work.

[X] < Nail here for new monitor

Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-08-19 11:29:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
For about a year I've been feeling that wormhole space has become stagnant and predictable. I don't have any facts or figures but it feels like there is far less activity in wormhole space these days.

I think that CCP need to do two things to make wormholes interesting again. Firstly they should add "new stuff" only available in wormhole space. This could include new T3 things to manufacture, a new class of wormhole or new types of sleepers (e.g roaming sleepers). This would attract new people to wormholes space and put us on a path to filling the empty systems.

Secondly, they need to add more conflict drivers. At the moment the only conflict drivers in wormhole space are the desire to pad your killboard or a grudge between two forces. K-space has lots of reasons to fight and i think we could do with similar incentives.

After we have gotten used to the mechanic changes in Hyperion, wormhole space is going to be as stagnant as it ever was IMHO.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-08-19 11:39:41 UTC
there are only 48 shades of brown, look it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/48_Shades_of_Brown

There is no Bob.

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Alzuule
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-08-19 11:55:05 UTC
Jay Joringer wrote:
This cannot be! Santa only gives presents to good little boys and girls. Alzuule is bad and doesn't deserve a fire engine.

(I'm onto you, Alzuule. Give William his account back)



but what if william was one of my alts all along?
Jay Joringer
13.
#13 - 2014-08-19 12:38:41 UTC
Alzuule wrote:

but what if william was one of my alts all along?


Impossible. He doesn't do enough bearing.

As for the changes, I'm glad J-Space finally got some love. It's not brilliant, but we've had nothing significant until now. There's plenty more they could have done, sure. As for the changes people made the most noise about not wanting, I think the plan is to wait and see what us players do with the new mechanics. I can't see anything earth-shattering come out of the mass/spawn thing, but so long as we get more 'player interaction' out of it and not less, it can stay.

Totally underwhelmed with the frigate WH's. It's a step in the right direction, but overall, there's nothing to drag more new people into the unknown, which is disappointing.
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#14 - 2014-08-19 13:07:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Janeway84
Santa Fozzie can i has new T3 ships? Frigates, battlecruisers, battleships, industrials? T3 pod?!
I think some of the wh veterans would love you if you made t3 frigates, they could be a blend of an assault frigate and a interceptor and ewar frig and cov op frig? Idea

going over the top: what about T3 pos mods, poses? Ammo and weapons and drones? Big smile
T3 scan probe launchers and scan probes, i can go on but i got to get back to work. Big smile
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2014-08-19 13:30:23 UTC
okst666 wrote:
meh..get close to it as near as possible to make the SB work.
Afaik you have to be at 6000m from the Wh and the smartbombs haev 6 - 7 kilometers range...so it should work.


You have to be as far away from the WH as the range of your bombs. If you're not pants on head ********, know some basic math, and have some people, then you'll be fine.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Alundil
Rolled Out
#16 - 2014-08-19 13:57:07 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
For about a year I've been feeling that wormhole space has become stagnant and predictable. I don't have any facts or figures but it feels like there is far less activity in wormhole space these days.


The chains I've scanned in the last 3-4 days can attest to this. Nothing more than a PI alts as far as the probes can fly :/
This includes chains linked from random k-space connections.

Total ships doing things I've encountered in the last 100 or so systems scouted include (and are limited to):
Epithals
Thorax; POS'd up having seen the sig spawn
and a C5 group huffing gas in a C4 (Venture, Prospectx2, Tengu, Proteus); sadly there were only two of us on at that point and as we began looking for ways to draw out the T3s the others reshipped turning what might have been a fun fight into definitely more than we could tangle with in off hours.

Reasons for pilots to come live in wspace needed; check

New uses for the materials dropped in data/relic/salvage would be nice
Actual reasons to fight over things aside from grudges (as the more groups condense or move out the fewer potential grudges to generate fights, rinse repeat)

I'm right behind you

HerrBert
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-08-19 15:01:45 UTC
Remember that one good post....

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3992084#post3992084

Still valid

Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx

Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2014-08-19 15:08:15 UTC
HerrBert wrote:


Wrecking shot Wall of text - 220000 (EM)
HerrBert
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-08-19 15:10:06 UTC
Borsek wrote:
HerrBert wrote:


Wrecking shot Wall of text - 220000 (EM)


Its that one ship that you undock once a month ...well year...

Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx

Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#20 - 2014-08-19 16:18:13 UTC
All I want for Christmas is a stasis web bubble. Could us same launcher as interdiction bubbles. Dont know if I like the idea of it effecting missiles...but I could have fun with one.
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