Intergalactic Summit

I can't disagree with this. I can at least hold some grudging respect for men and women like Diana Kim who fight out of a sense of duty to their nation and wish to protect said nation, even if I feel the methods are misguided. Unfortunately most of the combatants are mere profiteers, and while I wouldn't go so far to say mercenaries are bad (they serve a purpose and at least some can be somewhat honorable individuals), it's something of a raw deal for the inhabitants of those systems who have to change their flag every other week just because a great many individuals think it's a good way to gain money and entertainment.

I can agree that I would much prefer the Federation not try and gain influence in Black rise, but if I am not mistaken, that theater also contains nominally Gallente systems, and the State has no more business being there than the Federation has to be in Caldari systems.


It would be incorrect to say that I think the worlds are unimportant. I would very much prefer Black Rise not be under threat by Federation aligned groups, but the war as a whole is a sham. CONCORD isn't going to allow anybody to actually permanently secure those systems for the State, and the war front constant moves back and forth in a clearly delineated area. You can't sue for peace by putting pressure on the other party by driving into their space because you can't cross the lines CONCORD has drawn in the sand. Given that, this "war" has no hope of actually achieving anything.

If you check my record, you will find I spend some time fighting in the Protectorate, but I cam to realize that the fighting wasn't ever going to accomplish anything. I won't hesitate to take up arms on behalf of the State and have already done so on multiple occasions, and will gladly commit to Caldari Navy actions should Capsuleer involvement be allowed, but that is not the same as shooting mercenaries to change the color of a dot on the map.

To arms? Why arms? Why not legs? Legs can be just as useful as arms.

The State obviously does not comprehend the overreaching power of legs. And this is why the State must be destroyed.

Starsi, damnit.

Funnily enough, our standard of living suffers when our economic power suffers. Heth, of course, fixed all that up in the earlier, saner, part of his tenure as Executor. It's necessary to remember his early successes when we denigrate his later failings - you know that I was one of the first to speak out about those, Rinai.

And there have been abuses and, yes, I believe you have been one of those in the FDU who speak out about them. But then you are one of the Patriots, as am I - most of the complaints about the CEWPA war don't apply to either of us, do they? It was wrong of Heth to try and export our way of life to worlds where it wasn't welcome and to which we had no historic claim. It was wrong of those who thought we ought to have followed up our seizure of Caldari Prime with a campaign against the border systems, while you were weak and disorganised.

It was the best thing in the cluster that the campaign never came to pass - because it would have been the first time the State as a whole set out on a war of conquest and I think it would have leant wings to propaganda against us, convinced reasonable actors in the Federation that we were everything the UNATs said we were and, I also think, it would have changed us for the worst.

We should never be conquerors. It isn't according to the Way and the things that make us fiercely independent would also make us harsh masters to a sullen populace, I think.

I feel like this : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2906627#post2906627 should be a perfect addition to your portfolio, so everyone would know that by dealing with you, they are dealing with traitor of the State.

It all seems a bit pointless to me, but I suppose it is a little comforting to know the FDU exists if it ever turns serious.

Some of the inhabitants of those systems, such as myself, joined the Protectorate to keep the Gallente out of our homes. We remember the first time the Federation took control of our cities and stations, and how in their retreat from advancing State Protectorate forces, destroyed our industry and infrastructure. Collapsed buildings, scrapped factories, robbed the materials we ripped from the ground ourselves.

For as long as the history of our people, it's been the Federation attempting to take what is ours, then blaming us for fighting back.

Only in the Federation can one talk of fighting for freedom while realizing the manifest destiny of its military industries to restrict liberties and spy on its own citizens in the name of security.

I think I saw that word once in this holo mass multiplayer online game I used to play back in the day. It's a city of some description, I think.

Yes, it should be part of my portfolio. One of the proudest moments of my life, in fact. Standing true to the ideals of the State and my parent Mega, when the State itself was in a situation where it most certainly weren't adhering to the same ideals and principles. My State rose to the occasion and purged the corruption, much in part to those who knuckled up.

My own contributions to the Heth debacle were exceedingly minor given that I am a very small fish in a very big pond, but this little fish stood tall that day, alongside a lot of good men and women - citizens all - who finally couldn't bear seeing their State tore down like that any more.

It's a pity you never rose to the occasion. I think the State could use someone like you if only you had ever woke up from your mad little dreams.