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Nauplius found guilty in posthumous trial !

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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#21 - 2014-08-19 09:26:54 UTC
If you're going to take your anger out on a monster, there are better simulations out there that'd be quite a bit more satisfying than an empty slab of biomass that frankly haven't done anything once the previous owner vacated the premises. It's like taking a hammer to a steak because a cow once shat on your deck.

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Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#22 - 2014-08-19 09:41:15 UTC
If that steak was from that specific cow, then you would absolutely feel some vindication.

And the only thing that would have been more satisfying would have been having the live copy there instead.
Karynn Denton
Black Rebel Rifter Club
#23 - 2014-08-19 09:45:11 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Karynn Denton wrote:
What an utter sham and a farce!

A total affront to the Matari lives that he's spent and will continue to spend.


Didn't you want the body to be burned?


Yes, it should've been burned in space as an offering to the angry and vengeful spirits that he sent to the afterworld before their time.
This show trail offers no succour to them.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#24 - 2014-08-19 09:45:55 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
And a State Protectorate uniform? As little respect as I have for the cereal box ranks the STPRO gives us, I don't care to see the uniform used this way.

Vizage wrote:
Is there any explanation for her choice in garb? Throwing rocks and burning a corpse aside, why did she wear a STPRO uniform?

As a Khanid I feel nothing but friendship towards our allies in the State; as a holder I often wear uniforms of friendly foreign powers. I wouldn’t know what’s the fuss all about. I believe sociologists and historians have traced the origins of this practice long time ago and maintain it functions as a semiotic resource of symbolising rational and assiduous duties to the realm the holder rules.

That said let us not forget what the ceremony was also about: Honouring Topoteretai Sun and Kopenhagen for their deeds against evil.

Let us pray and act that for the tergiversator and his kin time will become a measure of pain. Now, and always, and to the ages of ages.

With many regards from Palas
Odelya d’Hanguest, Begum etc.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#25 - 2014-08-19 09:47:37 UTC
Karynn Denton wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
Karynn Denton wrote:
What an utter sham and a farce!

A total affront to the Matari lives that he's spent and will continue to spend.


Didn't you want the body to be burned?


Yes, it should've been burned in space as an offering to the angry and vengeful spirits that he sent to the afterworld before their time.
This show trail offers no succour to them.



It was burned in space, after the trial.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#26 - 2014-08-19 10:46:41 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
If that steak was from that specific cow, then you would absolutely feel some vindication.

And the only thing that would have been more satisfying would have been having the live copy there instead.


Why would I ever feel vindication? It's meat. It's dead. It has exactly zero capacity for anything but being dead. It no longer has even the most tenuous of links to the original perpetrator. The guy has left the building and couldn't return to it if he wanted to. Burning the building down will not affect him nor will beating the steak affect the dead cow.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have an Amarrian priest getup I need to wear while I perform a blessing upon the manufactorums in the name of the one true god, Mr Screwdriver. I will express surprise and puzzlement if this is not considered a friendly and wholesome gesture of respect to our allies and their customs.

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Karynn Denton
Black Rebel Rifter Club
#27 - 2014-08-19 12:17:27 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Karynn Denton wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
Karynn Denton wrote:
What an utter sham and a farce!

A total affront to the Matari lives that he's spent and will continue to spend.


Didn't you want the body to be burned?


Yes, it should've been burned in space as an offering to the angry and vengeful spirits that he sent to the afterworld before their time.
This show trail offers no succour to them.



It was burned in space, after the trial.


"Without any further ritual or ceremony" the report says. So it was not made as an offering to wrestless spirits. This is not satisfactory.

Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#28 - 2014-08-19 12:23:34 UTC
This was an inappropriate use of a corpse formerly belonging to a Prophet of God.

Instead, the corpse should have been harvested for holy relics around which could have been built shrines and cathedrals to inspire the Faithful for ages to come.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#29 - 2014-08-19 12:28:40 UTC
Given our capacity to go through corpses at a prodigious rate, I'd say there's a market that's not being exploited very well. The price of a clone with a 20% mark-up after ammunition cost, divided up on various squidgy bits and bones? "I can't believe it's not Egger"tm could do great business for a while.

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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#30 - 2014-08-19 12:44:24 UTC
I had thought these kind of farces were reserved for Articio and his court. I guess Kingdom's nobility is quick to embrace Kor-Azorite customs, for whichever reason.

Cheap vying for attention is the first to come to mind, however.

Shirley Serious wrote:
...the Duchess chose the uniform of a State Protectorate Brigadier General for the occasion.


Such a serious faux pas is not something I would've expected.
Shame, Odelya, shame.
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Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#31 - 2014-08-19 13:28:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Odelya d'Hanguest
Karynn Denton wrote:
"Without any further ritual or ceremony" the report says. So it was not made as an offering to wrestless spirits. This is not satisfactory.

Instead of whining about things that have happened, why don’t you just offer your concerns beforehand? Not that it would be ineluctable to follow your superstitious advice, but it is worth a thought, isn’t it?

The Heretic wrote:
Instead, the corpse should have been harvested for holy relics around which could have been built shrines and cathedrals to inspire the Faithful for ages to come.

This brings me to another challenge: Whoever acquires another corpse of the heretic in solo combat (and proof thereof), will be named honorary Nipsistiarios of the ducal household and be granted the privilege to partake in the annual hand washing ceremony. He will also received a monetary reward. The head of the tergiversator will be exhibited to pleasure the faithful and to warn the contumacious apostates, now, and always, and to the ages of ages.

With many regards from Palas
Odelya d’Hanguest, Begum etc.
Karynn Denton
Black Rebel Rifter Club
#32 - 2014-08-19 16:47:11 UTC
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
Karynn Denton wrote:
"Without any further ritual or ceremony" the report says. So it was not made as an offering to wrestless spirits. This is not satisfactory.

Instead of whining about things that have happened, why don’t you just offer your concerns beforehand?


I did, at least before your circus of a trial.

Looks like I'll have to get my own Naupilus corpse then. Or maybe the corpse of one of these sick cheerleaders? Either will do.




Karynn Denton

Caravan Master

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#33 - 2014-08-19 17:48:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Karynn Denton wrote:
Looks like I'll have to get my own Naupilus corpse then.


I think hunting and killing more of his copies will do just as much to appease the spirits as having had any additional ritual to the incineration of this one; they need vengeance.
Vizage
Capital Allied Industrial Distribution
#34 - 2014-08-19 18:16:58 UTC
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:


As a Khanid I feel nothing but friendship towards our allies in the State; as a holder I often wear uniforms of friendly foreign powers. I wouldn’t know what’s the fuss all about. I believe sociologists and historians have traced the origins of this practice long time ago and maintain it functions as a semiotic resource of symbolising rational and assiduous duties to the realm the holder rules.

That said let us not forget what the ceremony was also about: Honouring Topoteretai Sun and Kopenhagen for their deeds against evil.

Let us pray and act that for the tergiversator and his kin time will become a measure of pain. Now, and always, and to the ages of ages.

With many regards from Palas
Odelya d’Hanguest, Begum etc.


With respect, Dutchess d'Hanguest, Caldari traditional tends to reward those based on the merit of their actions. To simply adorn oneself in the uniform of a high ranked STPRO official could be construed as a mild level of mockery of our Traditions.

While honestly I found it more confusing than offensive I would recommend that maybe consultation with someone before such a controversial decision is made.

That being said, I do see how wearing the uniform would in some way act towards honouring now titled Topoteretai Sun and Kopenhagen.
Alexander Draegar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2014-08-20 06:01:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexander Draegar
It must be said that this trial would have been conducted with a bit more civility, had core Amarrian rulers been in attendance at the trial. Sadly, those like myself who are concerned with such events were not informed, and therefore our opinions were not represented there.

I would request a retrial, but Naupilus is no longer present in the flesh to be brought to trial. Should he wish to appear in an Amarrian court to answer for the crimes for which he is accused, he may do so under my personal protection until the conclusion of said trial.

Rest assured, there will be a trial with impartial jurors and/or their representatives in attendance. However, I must inform him that any resulting sentence will be legally binding.

~Alexander Draegar, King of Pyrax, and Servant of God.

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~Alexander Draegar

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-08-20 15:21:04 UTC
I don't think that trial of a capsuleer corpse with alive clone somewhere without presence of the said alive clone is either fair, valid or legal.
According to basic principle of justice, judging cannot be considered valid if you didn't give him chance to defend himself.
CONCORD has set its policies and cloning technology with the way, that active capsuleer's clone is responsible for deeds of all previous capsuleer clones.
Besides that, active Mr. Nauplius' clone contains all memories of the said person, and thus at least his permission should have been obtained first for judging his previous clone without his presence.

I believe, that if Mr. Nauplius has objections against at least one point of the sentence, he can easily proclaim all of them invalid and demand either review or appeal to higher instance.

Of course, should Mr. Nauplius attend the trial, he must be restrained and kept under guard... for both his and other parties security.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Kalaratiri
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#37 - 2014-08-20 15:57:18 UTC
I went, and can only really describe the trial as... spectacularly showy. Say what you like about The Duchess, but she can certainly put on a performance. I think several of the guests were slightly taken aback at some particular parts of the trial, and there were a few awkward silences, but The Duchess never missed a beat.

She also provided some excellent food.

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Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2014-08-22 16:21:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Arista Shahni
Well. It's good Kingdom practice to have a heavy buffet table, rich or poor.

I am certainly glad that the Kindom as a whole has dropped that habit of taking picures of it all beforehand. Who really likes flicking through holo-albums of events and saying, "Look at the food, it was beautiful"?

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#39 - 2014-08-22 16:42:44 UTC
Arista Shahni wrote:
Well. It's good Kingdom practice to have a heavy buffet table, rich or poor.

I am certainly glad that the Kindom as a whole has dropped that habit of taking picures of it all beforehand. Who really likes flicking through holo-albums of events and saying, "Look at the food, it was beautiful"?

People who like torturing friends who are under the mistaken impression that they gain weight just by looking at pictures of food, I'd guess?

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Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-08-22 16:45:54 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Arista Shahni wrote:
Well. It's good Kingdom practice to have a heavy buffet table, rich or poor.

I am certainly glad that the Kindom as a whole has dropped that habit of taking picures of it all beforehand. Who really likes flicking through holo-albums of events and saying, "Look at the food, it was beautiful"?

People who like torturing friends who are under the mistaken impression that they gain weight just by looking at pictures of food, I'd guess?


No, it's a show of affluence.. no matter how poor a family is, there always has to be lots of food. With pictures, of course, to prove it existed at the time.

Be happy you missed it - that fad was ending in my youth.

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."

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