Wormholes

Tbh Fozzie was pretty clear that CCP don't want to design by committee and unless you get "burn Jita" numbers, that isn't going to change. What you should do is prove that your biggest fears have merit... Form a coalition and wipeout everyone else

Only time will tell if these changes are good or not and instead of any premature overreactions, I wish people would band together for a better cause, like wormholes finally getting a true expansion.

I support this.

There is a big difference between design by committee, and being herded onto the train like cattle.

The core issue is that the game with this, takes one more step, to where it does not matter what we do. The decision has been reached, where introducing random luck, steps beyond, a simple programming trick that makes things easy to code, and doesn't need any rules behind it calculating the mechanics. And takes the giant leap to the point, where a players efforts are just as reliable, and important, and consistent as the loot fairy!

Why should one even bother to log in if you are just playing Russian roulette.

Today, this new design philosophy is coming to wormholes, tomorrow to you.

So there we are, will people fight to ensure they have a reason to play? Who knows.

If the mass change only included making the caps jump further, and the other ships following, be dragged to the same spot, we would have possibly still have disliked it, but we could see how things panned out, but that was not what we got at all.
Instead we got everything scattered across a sphere of space, and whether an individual lives or dies is 100% down to luck.

They are fighting for the concept that what we do in EVE has effects on EVE, it has persistence,and your efforts have direct and indirect consequences, your skill training and tactics and those of your opponent determine the result, THAT is what makes EVE unique, and without that it is a pale imposter, living off the spoils of those that created it. EVE was never based on success or failure through luck.

Hilmar loves his speech about when he lost his thorax, and he was so angry with himself when due to his mistake he lost it, and he says that it was then, he discovered that Eve was real, and Losses mattered. EvE was truly born that day.

If it happened after Hyperion, well meh it's just bad luck, "nothing I could have done", and press the Dev button for a new one, because It would no longer matter.

It seems that this has been forgotten, by the custodians of EVE, the Giants that preceded them are long gone, and the Game is now about pay packets and the occasional good party. It has lasted this long, why should in not last another ten or twenty years?

The question is, that when you surrender and squander, the single item that truly separates EVE from all the pretenders, it just becomes just another game, Pretending to be EVE, and missing the core reason for all it's successes.

A big shout out to CCP Fozzie for not only dunking WH bears, but trolling incursion bears by proxy.

Couldn't have been planned better, not even at the BBQ.

The actual WH changes are fantastic, they make WH's what they were always meant to be: dangerous.

People sure love throwing around HTFU and 'Adapt or die', until it hits something they like.

Good to know that SSC isn't major anymore. :P

This is just amazing.

You read this thread and you start to understand slightly why there are people who still think the world is flat.

Oh no, you poor people, your safe wormhole rolling will be gone!!

Vote Official Diplomat for CSM 2015 and I will promise to make WH fun for all parties involved.

Just get off the train and go into that room with the funny smell and the whirling knives and tell me how it is after a month, we can discuss it over a nice steak dinner.