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Prowler Fits for Hauling in lowsec/00

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Wanderwander
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-08-18 02:12:00 UTC
Looking to BRs- came up with this fit. Please feel free to make corrections with justification ;-)


[Prowler, New Setup 1]
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Inertia Stabilizers II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I (off lline)

Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I


Experiment 32423
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-08-18 06:39:45 UTC
Fitting BRs really depends on cargo size and how much risk you're willing to take. I generally fit mine for cargo with at least two Inertia Stabs to bring align to less than five seconds and 8000 m3 of cargo, but it really depends on your personal needs. WCS are highly situational too and, unless I had something very valuable, I wouldn't fit them.

MWD is obviously not debatable, and the tank is again highly situational - double Invul provides the highest EHP if I'm not mistaken but ECM Burst could be extremely valuable too.

I guess what I'm trying to say is consider your needs and fit accordingly, there is no best way to fit it and it will always come down to personal preference.


This is what I usually use:

Cargo: 8033
Align: 4.9
EHP: 13.2k


[Prowler, Prowler - High Capacity]
Expanded Cargohold II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#3 - 2014-08-18 13:03:38 UTC
Why fit the WCStabs? Odds are, the only time you'll ever get decloaked are in a bubble, or in a huge camp, and WCStabs don't help you in either situation.

IStabs, on the other hand, will help you pretty much regardless of situation. I'd chose them over WCStabs any day.

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JessiewithaG
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-08-18 15:01:03 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Why fit the WCStabs? Odds are, the only time you'll ever get decloaked are in a bubble, or in a huge camp, and WCStabs don't help you in either situation.

IStabs, on the other hand, will help you pretty much regardless of situation. I'd chose them over WCStabs any day.


I can see the stabs for that protection from server hiccups/ instalock/lag. Maybe not two but one for sure.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#5 - 2014-08-18 15:17:20 UTC
JessiewithaG wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Why fit the WCStabs? Odds are, the only time you'll ever get decloaked are in a bubble, or in a huge camp, and WCStabs don't help you in either situation.

IStabs, on the other hand, will help you pretty much regardless of situation. I'd chose them over WCStabs any day.


I can see the stabs for that protection from server hiccups/ instalock/lag. Maybe not two but one for sure.

Maybe this is just my mentality, but in my world, if I get locked in a Blockade Runner I've already failed. I fit to avoid getting locked in the first place. From my experience, the chances of getting tackled by only a single ship are pretty slim; all of the times I've lost a BR, it's been to a well-supported bubble camp, not fast-locking solo ships. I'd rather fit modules that help my survive all of the time, not just in a small handful of unlikely scenarios.

YMMV of course. If you're flying through nullsec and you know there are fast-locking, solo 'ceptors around, a WCStab may be useful. I typically don't.

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-08-18 16:27:57 UTC
I'm not sure I see a reason to fit an expanded probe launcher over a standard one.

For the mids, the MWD is required obviously. I roll with a single adaptive invulnerability feild and an ECM burst, though I don't think either will make a real difference. If you get decloaked and locked, you're probably dead anyway.

For the lows, mix and match between cargo expanders and nanofibers. If I'm not mistaken, using Inertia stabs doesn't give you a viable boost in align time over the nanos, and nanos don't add to your sig radius. Warp stabs are fairly useless, because again if you're decloaked you're probably dead no matter what.

For rigs, just go with LFNJ. There's just no reason to use anything else.

The keys here are being able to stay cloaked and align fast. More cargo space means slower align, which means theres a greater chance you get decloaked. You gotta make the call on how much space you need, but realise you're giving up safety in return.

Just my two cents. Good luck!
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#7 - 2014-08-18 16:31:09 UTC
Personally i fit for minimal align time, and **** the stabs because if you do fit stabs its easier to catch you they bloom your sig too much, just pull a perfect cloak and your not getting caught unless its by a massive camp or sheer bad luck, in which case stabs wont save you anyways.

Keep the MWD on there as wellsince if you do see a camp you can cloak and then hit the MWD and youll be way away from where they might send frigs and drones to get the decloak.

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Orchid Kell
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-08-20 23:47:16 UTC
I agree if you're caught out of cloak you're already in trouble so no need for WCS

The server works on ticks from what I hear so 3.1 align and 3.8 align will both do 4 sec warp. So you can be sensible and fit 2 nanos II's and DCU2 with the hardeners and get a 4 second warp. You could also use two T2 LFNJ and put whatever you want in the lows. If your evasive maneuvering is low you may have to do both rigs and nanos.

If you have capped agility skills, then it's possible to bring it down to 3 seconds with 3 istab II's plus a LFNJ. It may be possible to do with two istabs and two T2 LFNJ's but I don't trust EFT's numbers that much.

Even if the server tick with warp doesn't work that way, having the nanos and a DCU I think is safer.. you can get 14-16k ehp for smartbombs plus will be faster cloaked if you need to work around bubbles or are station camped. Plus you can use whatever rigs you want, such as cargo or HVO if you are doing lots of hauling or some shield rigs for extra protection.

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-08-21 00:16:44 UTC
Fit is perfect, any variation is personal taste.

For example, I have one with t2 warp speed rigs + the (super cheap) 8% warp speed implant on my alt, because hauling several jumps is a PITA. It does 12 AU/s or so.

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