EVE General Discussion

Then you are just as bad as all the other people going grr Somer and letting your hatred of Somer get in the way of rational thinking.

If Somer has indeed as they have stated been given permission by CCP to run this scheme then they have not broken any rules.

How can you blame a player for any action if they have first gone to CCP and then been given permission?

You can go grrr Somer all you like but if a player goes to CCP first and asks for their guidance / permission to do x and CCP gives them green light then the fault lies 100% with CCP not with the player.

No matter what you say and how against Somer you may be, you will never be able to escape the fact if what Somer has stated is true, CCP have given him their permission for this scheme.

Blink is my isk faucet. Blink is just an extension of the eve meta at great scale. Eve should not be equal, even if this lack of equality kills it. Take a website creation class, have a solid idea and compete with them, or go home.

Quit yur whining go back to mining.

Hehe, yeah but this is CCP, there not exactly know for there speedy response

People are mad that somebody is making RL money from Eve and apprently CCP are cool with this when there not

Meh, most people here have an acknowledgement hangup. Anytime a little mob feels like they can be noticed whining in a way they feel is legitimate, they come out of the woodwork. The rest of just current RMT'ers that don't want anyone else cutting in on their action.

Also, blinked an ashimuu, fleet phoon, and obelisk this week with a 25 mil investment. :]

And the rest are somer shills or gamblers that want more bang for their buck.

Primarily because allowing RMT generally leads to people running accounts to make cash, and botting, account hacking and spam become pretty heavy. This has all the usual negative side effects including the collapse of the economy. EVE has a slightly different issue as well, which is that people buy a lot of plex to sell for isk. If RMT were allowed, that revenue stream would be cut down heavily.

RMT just doesn't work for MMOs. Pretty much every MMO that's had a serious problem with RMT has suffered. Diablo 3 tried to run legal RMT, and that collapsed in pretty short order.

There is RMT like PLEX and there is EULA breaking RMT like purchasing ISK for $.

The first one isn't really a problem, because the ISK can only be traded for game time. You basically pay some guy his game time and he uses part of it to work for you (by generating ISK). Of course there is the ingame market in between. One can make an argument that this is p2w, but that is just for people who think ISK matters..

The second one tries to establish a real world business by generating revenue out of game money. This may not be a big difference for you as buyer of ISK, but on the other end it changes from a game to a real world industry. Which is probably irrelevant because some people already play this game like a job anyway.

Also CCP makes ISK from the first kind of transaction but not from the second one, so it is in their interest to ban the second kind from their game. Because it's custom on GD to not give a **** or care at all but post anyway we can simply ignore that.

But then there is always that question about how can I sell off my own trillion ISK stash and make $ out of it and if SOMER is alowed to do it, may I do it as well with better conditions so I get all the money and not SOMER? Maybe we can ignore that too because like many others said we are just jealous and SOMER should be privileged by CCP.

So in the end its CCP's decision if they want to treat everyone equally and ban the SOMER guys for a violation of the EULA or if they make exceptions for their friends like they did before and which was not received well by the community.

I think they should have banned this guys a year ago, but that is just my opinion.

Lets go with the assumption that Somer did indeed go to CCP first and CCP agreed.

First we have no idea whether it was a GM or whether it was somebody higher up who gave the go ahead.

Secondly, to presume that a GM would just give the go ahead without consulting anybody else consider what happened previously with Somer, and presuming that a GM is weak minded enough that they would let themselves be convinced doing something which is against the rules is insulting at best.

I am not sure why you have such a low opinion of the GM's, I personally think they do a great job. Sure they make the odd mistakes but they are human and we all make mistakes from time to time.

After what happened last time it would make sense that Somer approach CCP first. For all we know Somer and CCP have been discussing this for days / Weeks / Months.

You, Me and everybody else has no idea what discussions have taken place if any.

You can get your panties in a twist all you like but you can not change the fact that If Somer did indeed get the okay from CCP then your anger is completely misplaced.

I talked with Somer last night and he said he got approval from CCP Legal department. It probably never went to GM or game design people, this is purely a legal issue.