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son wants to play eve......

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#21 - 2014-08-17 13:10:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Val'Dore
Your son playing EvE now at 10 years old is the equivalent of an MBA at 18. If he gets hooked, he might just be rich by the time he is old enough to own stuff.


Disclaimer: No, I'm not saying EvE will make you rich. The mentality of earning success will.

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-08-17 13:29:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Yang Aurilen
Dave Stark wrote:
Tweek Etimua wrote:
Chu Ke wrote:
Honestly...

Your son should be out playing sports and learning how to pick up girls


You may want to enlist him in a wieght lifting class before you tell him to go learn to pick up girls......


lift with your knees, not your back.


Squats and oats man. Roll All you need to go from zero to hero. Also make sure you don't introduce him to the wonderful world of afk mining or suicide ganking. Unless you want him to curse faster than jita alts .01iskomgs all of their orders go ahead.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-08-17 14:01:25 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
Your son playing EvE now at 10 years old is the equivalent of an MBA at 18. If he gets hooked, he might just be rich by the time he is old enough to own stuff.


Disclaimer: No, I'm not saying EvE will make you rich. The mentality of earning success will.


This. This. This.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Efernal
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-08-17 14:17:44 UTC
10 ? My 5 year old wants to play EvE. All I had to do was Tell her that Daddy doesn't want her to play this game just yet. So I kick back and play Minecraft with her on the 360 or a good race car game. And as for learning new words, Kids these day pick up so much even from daycare it can be frighting sometimes. At 10 I'm sure I'll be letting her experience online games so long as I'm there with her bashing in skulls or blowing up starships. Bonus for me is I have a 3 year old as well (also a girl). I have alot of fun to look forward to..


DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#25 - 2014-08-17 14:33:09 UTC
To be honest - I don't think it's a very good idea at all. This game may have a "teen" rating but a few hours of playing EVE will show you that a vast majority of EVE players have no issue with broadcasting material that is is no way "child friendly" in very open channels - Simply join the CCP created channel "mining" (where one would assume that topics related to "mining" would be discussed) and within one hour you will be introduced to a lot of "content" that is in no way something that a ten year old should be part of.

There are plenty of games out there for players that are still children, and I don't feel that EVE is one of them.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#26 - 2014-08-17 14:33:52 UTC
Eve's mechanics are complex, but a 10 year old might understand a lot of them. I wouldn't expose my child to an online community at that age though. Perhaps under supervision?
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#27 - 2014-08-17 14:51:01 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Eve's mechanics are complex, but a 10 year old might understand a lot of them. I wouldn't expose my child to an online community at that age though. Perhaps under supervision?


It would have to be very close supervision. Personally, I really wish CCP would just take steps to make sure that only whatever the county of origin of the player considered an "adult" was even allowed to play in the first place. Think of the reduced load on the GM's that a change like this would result in - from this point on a support ticket for "offensive language" could just result in a system response of "HTFU and use the block feature" :-)
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#28 - 2014-08-17 14:54:18 UTC
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.


29 years ago I was 10 I swore I played games like crazy. I also came out the other end successful and well mannered. I've also known people who brought their kids up on games like us.

Not too young in my opinion, but he may be scammed etc
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#29 - 2014-08-17 15:30:05 UTC
Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.


29 years ago I was 10 I swore I played games like crazy. I also came out the other end successful and well mannered. I've also known people who brought their kids up on games like us.

Not too young in my opinion, but he may be scammed etc


Better to learn now in a video game than when he tries to buy a house IRL.

Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.

I invented Tiericide

Benji Bobbb
Doomheim
#30 - 2014-08-17 18:27:33 UTC
Thanks for the input. Hes not a couch potato and is involved in sorts etc. Maybe might just let him watch and listen in for a while so he knows what to expect. Obviously there is some adult content but I hope....well I know he is mature enough to either ignore it. If he were to start playing i wouldn't expose him to pvp. Mainly just carebeaing up in high sec mining and doing missions.

I like pie.....

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#31 - 2014-08-17 18:33:57 UTC
Almost everyone who replied to this thread either isn't a parent or doesn't play minecraft, or both.

Minecraft is FULL of griefing, cursing, backstabbing little **** scammer bastards. If you let him play that by himself you can certainly let him play Eve. Of course you would be breaking the EULA.



internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2014-08-17 18:37:23 UTC
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.


Oh dear spirits...get outside with your son.

And 10 is too young of course...he would not grasp the concept of grown ups behaving like idiots.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#33 - 2014-08-17 20:40:38 UTC
my three year old wants to play, its cute.


Now then, if it was my son, i'd let him. Put him in your corp, make sure he is on the same TS channels as you and his pc is close enough so you can watch it. Once he understands how people and things work, you could give him some more length to his leash. But always make sure you can see his screen so if he clicks on something he shouldn't you can quickly say no!

But 10 is fine, just again, supervise. thats what i would do. He will either get bored quickly or honestly pick up some skills that will help him later. Eve being chess may give him patience, or will just **** him off lol.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#34 - 2014-08-17 20:59:46 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
And 10 is too young of course...he would not grasp the concept of grown ups behaving like idiots.

Why not? He's got a decade worth of experience by now, after all. P
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
#35 - 2014-08-17 21:03:18 UTC
give him a billion isk of frigates to run in Faction Warfare, and tell him if he doesn't make his own isk to support his habit he is done playing EVE. Twisted
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#36 - 2014-08-17 21:05:09 UTC
Not without adult supervision while playing, certainly.

After that, you're the parent, it's your choice.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Jake Entar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-08-17 21:27:59 UTC
Adult supervision to play this game? Just turn the graphics off that show weapons being shot in space. Minecraft can be worse than eve at times o.O
Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-08-17 21:33:28 UTC
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.


It wouldn't be bad to let him play.
As Scipio mentioned above, this is a tactical, slow-paced game that requires skill and patience to properly play. Please note that the community is composed mostly of adults, and your son will be treated as so. If he's a "sponge" (sort of kid that picks up obnoxious / violent behavior or foul language), then please supervise him at all times.
And make sure he doesn't bite off more than he can chew. Some people take this game too seriously and may seek to go to great lengths to annoy you if they find out your personal info.

PS: Send me his character's name and I'll have him set up in no time :)

"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#39 - 2014-08-17 21:51:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Robert Sawyer wrote:
PS: Send me his character's name and I'll have him set up in no time :)

Robert. Knowing you the way I do now since your first thread here in GD, I know absolutely that this is a genuine offer of help.

Unfortunately we live in an age where offers of help, aren't always intended that way.

While you are a really nice guy and totally mean your suggestion the right way, I don't think any parent should let their young child play EvE under the guidance of any other player, unless they know and trust them personally IRL.

If this happens, only a parent should be guiding and assisting their 10 y/o son play.

Nothing against you at all. I just think in these situations, given EvE is what it is, a conservative approach when it comes to children is the best approach.
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-08-18 02:07:54 UTC
that's adorable and yes, you should start training your son to survive under capitalism early in an exciting, spaceship filled way

besides, let him get too interested in minecraft and he'll start making youtube videos about it