Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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then you are in support of the ISBoxer and bot miners that are making bank because they can have 20 accounts plexed with little to no effort. then yes it will hurt some it wont hurt as many as you think you must think of the risk vs cost before deciding if its going to hurt other miners this ship wont be cheap or easy to create, players hide the Roq in pos's just to be deployed and throw the best boosts possable for there miners. maybe if they feel lucky they will collect cans from there mining fleet but usally not they wont rish there 3b isk ship on that. a 5-10b isk capital Miner is not worth the risk to most

Taking this line of thinking to the extreme, we should stop doing any PVE and be shooting each other in rookie ships.

On second thought, not that bad idea.

I like the base idea of a capital miner as (mining) fleet support, but we already have that - the Rorqual.

The concept of a mining fleet seems to be that smaller ships (exhumers, barges and frigates) collect and a larger ship stands overwatch providing boosts and storage. Given that (and the changes to industry lately), I don't think we need a large capital ship actually extracting ore.

If this was an attempt to provide a 1-ship alternative to compete with miners with multiple accounts, that can't work. I applaud the idea (in theory), but any advantage you build into a single ship is also given to the multiboxers (unfortunately). You can't penalize multiboxers without penalizing cooperative play, either. The game has no way of knowing if someone is multiboxing or if its different people.

We don't need another large ship, the Orca and the Rorqual are more than enough for the needs of a mining fleet. The Orca is just fine as it is in its role of providing boosts and storage, given that its able to be fielded in HiSec.

I would like to see the Rorqual changed around the concept of a mobile industrial starbase. Perhaps even a form of mobile resupply platform for sustained engagements.

Undeployed

• It would have mobility and drones, but no access to any active modules (it would need fleet protection while moving).
• I'd remove the Clone Vat Bay, the cargo and survey scanning bonuses, and the shield repairer range bonus. With its role being moved off-grid, it doesn't need these.
• It would not have access to add/remove anything from any of its holds with the exception of the main cargo hold.

Deployed

• It would have access to ore compression, straight up refining (at modest to poor efficiency), even light manufacturing (ammo and other consumables).
• It would gain access to its other holds and services (ore, ammo, Ship Maintenance Bay, fleet hangar).
• Can activate up to 3 Warfare links (with the same 10% per level boost).
• SMB would still have the same limitations on ship types (industrials or barges).

In essence it would be an extremely vulnerable target while mobile and only slightly less so when deployed, but it would give boosts just as well as it does now, and also have some of the functionality of a POS.

I want to thank everyone that posted here it has given me some idea this is still in my mind but the current Ore Capital ship needs reworked before this can be conciderd at all. heck that might be wat the roq needs is options that bring it out of the pos shield

That would be the drone nerf and its very, very slow stockpile drainage, battleship price increase, the rise of miner ganking rates, and the proliferation of supers and caps.

Still a bad idea for all the same reasons outlined above.

Also, see: Titans.