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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#21 - 2014-08-16 22:48:14 UTC
Mining in lowsec really should be done in the context of a corp that does a strong home defense. While not designated bait for a fleet, you do act as a fleetmember that generates fights (aka content) just by being there. While your ship might not always be saved, a good combination of fitting and non-AFK gameplay can be quite productive. It does have some merit to mine in lowsec instead of hisec, but it's not really offset by the risk. It is offset by the fun you'd have playing with other people and being a valuable industrialist to your corp.
Kry Meariver
Kry Meariver Corporation
#22 - 2014-08-18 00:11:28 UTC
I thought I would give you some tips about mining. First off, don't join a mining corporation. These corporations get war-decced by high sec pvpers for easy targets (Marmite Collective, Devil's Warrior Alliance, etc.). Join a player corporation to socialize and do stuff in game that you can't do alone. If you are not going to join a player corporation right off the bat, consider making your own corporation. It takes just a few minutes to train Corporation Management to 1 and costs very little. This will get you out of the NPC Tax, and your chance of getting a war dec are low (so long as you do not provoke anyone).

Next off, 0.5 sec status is the most profitable hi-sec has to offer. You are wise to use a Procurer rather than a Retriever. Don't be gank bait. Scordite, Plagioclase, and Pyroxeres (in Amarr space) are the most profitable.

Finally, here is a nice fit to discourage gankers. You won't be able to fit all of the tier 2 mods, but you can down fit. Consider this something to work towards. For the money it is great for both protection and profitability.

High Slot: Modulated Strip Miner II + proper mining crystal
Medium Slot: Thermic Disspation Field II
Medium Slot: Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Slot: Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Slot: Survey Scanner II
Low Slot: Mining Laser Upgrade II
Low Slot: Mining Laser Upgrade II
Rig: Medium Core Defense Extender I
Rig: Medium Core Defense Extender I
Rig: Medium Core Defense Extender I

Drones
4 * Hobgoblin II
1 * Salvage Drone
5 * Mining Drone II

If you do come under attack by a group of gankers, overheat your middle rack (you need to train Thermodynamics). The Thermic Dissapation field really helps your durability to the dreaded Gankzilla fit Catalyst. The EM hole in your shields is covered by the large EM resist in your armor so you still aren't vunerable to the EMP Thrasher.

Hope that helps.
Tired ofEVE
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-08-18 02:00:54 UTC
Cyno for Titan wrote:
i make about 45m isk per hour with mining. so its not the hightest income, but not that much bad as some metioned.


that's with how many accounts?
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#24 - 2014-08-18 03:01:15 UTC
Tired ofEVE wrote:
Cyno for Titan wrote:
i make about 45m isk per hour with mining. so its not the hightest income, but not that much bad as some metioned.


that's with how many accounts?
Must be at least 2-3 plus orca boost
Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
#25 - 2014-08-18 15:02:54 UTC
Oz Hilanen wrote:
Hi all,

I've only been playing for less than a month and I'm currently developing my mining skills. I have a Procurer, 5 Mining I drones and 5 Worrior I light scout drones for defence, and a strip minining I laser.

I've benn messing around in 0.5+ space for a while, making about 1.8 million ISK per run buy just filling up my hold with the more common ores and selling them local. My mining drone and Light drone skills are both at level 4 and I'm working on getting them to level 5 so I can invest in Miner II drones and Class II light drones.

Given this setup, how capable would I be of defending myslelf in lower sec space? I'd like to start looking for the rarer ores so I can start making more profit. Should I wait until my light drone skill allows me to get some class II Wasps or Hobgoblins before venturing into lower sec space?

I've also started shopping around for a corp to join. Might it just be more profitable to join a mining corp rather than venture into low sec systems?


With a good fitting & skills a Procurer is a tough cookie to crack. Other than 'miner-bumping' or jet-can theft you are not going to have any problems.
Joining a corporation that specifically advertises itself as a mining, industrial, or newbie-friendly can be problematic as they will invariably be wardecced quite often. I would advise against joining such a corporation except if it is keeping a low profile and not advertising its activities.
Mining in low sec is not advisable unless you are in a well set up fleet and even then it will be a pain. Better to keep an eye out for grav sites in high sec with Hedbergite, Hemorphite, & Jaspet in them if you want the 'rarer ores.

Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
#26 - 2014-08-18 15:05:48 UTC
Kry Meariver wrote:
I thought I would give you some tips about mining. First off, don't join a mining corporation. These corporations get war-decced by high sec pvpers for easy targets (Marmite Collective, Devil's Warrior Alliance, etc.). Join a player corporation to socialize and do stuff in game that you can't do alone. If you are not going to join a player corporation right off the bat, consider making your own corporation. It takes just a few minutes to train Corporation Management to 1 and costs very little. This will get you out of the NPC Tax, and your chance of getting a war dec are low (so long as you do not provoke anyone).

Next off, 0.5 sec status is the most profitable hi-sec has to offer. You are wise to use a Procurer rather than a Retriever. Don't be gank bait. Scordite, Plagioclase, and Pyroxeres (in Amarr space) are the most profitable.

Finally, here is a nice fit to discourage gankers. You won't be able to fit all of the tier 2 mods, but you can down fit. Consider this something to work towards. For the money it is great for both protection and profitability.

High Slot: Modulated Strip Miner II + proper mining crystal
Medium Slot: Thermic Disspation Field II
Medium Slot: Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Slot: Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Slot: Survey Scanner II
Low Slot: Mining Laser Upgrade II
Low Slot: Mining Laser Upgrade II
Rig: Medium Core Defense Extender I
Rig: Medium Core Defense Extender I
Rig: Medium Core Defense Extender I

Drones
4 * Hobgoblin II
1 * Salvage Drone
5 * Mining Drone II

If you do come under attack by a group of gankers, overheat your middle rack (you need to train Thermodynamics). The Thermic Dissapation field really helps your durability to the dreaded Gankzilla fit Catalyst. The EM hole in your shields is covered by the large EM resist in your armor so you still aren't vunerable to the EMP Thrasher.

Hope that helps.


It's a good idea to swap one of the MLU II in the low slots for a Damage Control II module to give even more tank.
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