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superginger21
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-08-14 06:05:07 UTC
hey all.

so ive been looking for something new to try in eve and ive landed on the wh nomad life.

Planning on using 3 accounts: Orca Main base pilot, main combat/site runner pilot, and secondary combat scout/prober/noctis pilot

Ive been reading and researching a lot and from what ive gathered c3 are the most lucrative for lower class wh's. i'm still pretty unfamilar with wh's. What kind of c3 should i try and find? How long should i stay in one hole? How do wh chains work? and what are some indicators that say stay away from a certain wh? Im trying to get a good idea of how wh's work before i try it.

as for ships:

obviously main base orca with cloak and probe launcher.
[Orca, Orca fit]

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

Dread Guristas Cloaking Device
Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer /OFFLINE
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher

Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I
Large Cargohold Optimization I


Vespa EC-600 x5
Light Hull Maintenance Bot I x5

My orca pilot is maxed out leadership as well as lvl 5 indy command so the orca gets a very sexy 57k cargo along with 40k fleet hanger so it will have plenty of room for pretty much anything ill need. ive seen post about how it is better do bring along a small tower to sit the orca in while your main runs sites to make it easier to swap out ships/fits etc in relative safety. what do you guys think? with my 3 accounts is a small tower a good idea or would i be ok with just the orca? im pretty familar with swapping out ships with the orca so that wont be a problem. is the tower really worth it? for imps i was thinking a simple mid grade ascendency 1-6 along with rf mindlink and being set as squad/wing commander

My main combat pilot is maxed out minmatar specialist. 80m sp can fly almost every subcap maxed out. CS 5 Marauder 5 and maxed mach pilot. this is also where im split on. from what ive been seeing/reading marauders can solo c5s so they can easily solo c3s but ive seen many post on how even though vargur runs sites easily its not as efficient compared to a sleipnir. What makes it more efficient then the other? Since i have both CS 5 and maruaders 5 which is the best choice for c3 sites? i dug up a sleip fit from an old post:
[Sleipnir, WHC]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
Corpii A-Type Small Nosferatu

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

all relevant skills maxed can this run c3 sites or should i upship to mach/vargur?

Apart from making isk from sleepers i also interested in hunting with my secondary combat char. he is maxed out recon/t3 amarr specialized. I was thinking cloaky neut legion as main tackle with a arty loki for dps.

apart from all that what are some wh resources must haves? any other advice you guys have?

thanks guys
umnikar
Fishbone Industries
#2 - 2014-08-14 10:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: umnikar
I did that in the past and it worked out pretty well. With 3 accounts I was wandering from wh to wh, farming sites, setting ambushes on residents etc. It was pretty much the more interesting way to play eve.

Just one advise:

Don't use the orca as scanning platform. Put 2-3 small towers in it and anchor up a temporary base before starting operations.
While traveling I used to have 3 warfare links on the orca and escorted it with 2 Battleships.

Think I lost all my stuff only once. What?
It was a pain but also funny and well done from that group who catched me. o/ MMO Mechanics

That time back a Noctis was necessary to have in the ship hangar and reduced the possibilities in PvP alot.
Today you have mobile tractor units. Blink
Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-08-14 10:53:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Keith Planck
You do realize that the post about living out of an orca was a super lel troll made by a well known highsec ganker to troll people into taking unguarded orcas into wormhole space right?

Also that C3 fit is ******* awful. What makes the marauders more efficient is they do 100% of their DPS to battleships, can smartbomb frigs, salvage as you run the site, and can refit painters and tracking computers and do 96% of their dps to cruisers.

Anyone who says sleipnir and c3 in the same sentence is trolling you...

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umnikar
Fishbone Industries
#4 - 2014-08-14 11:08:01 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
You do realize that the post about living out of an orca was a super lel troll made by a well known highsec ganker to troll people into taking unguarded orcas into wormhole space right?

Also that C3 fit is ******* awful. What makes the marauders more efficient is they do 100% of their DPS to battleships, can smartbomb frigs, salvage as you run the site, and can refit painters and tracking computers and do 96% of their dps to cruisers.

Anyone who says sleipnir and c3 in the same sentence is trolling you...


No I dont realize and don't care about hs ganker.
I played that style more than a year.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#5 - 2014-08-14 13:54:17 UTC
The trick is the Orca's SMB and that small CT with a couple days of fuel in cargo. Then you just dump your base on the nextbest moon, switch all three toons into Ishtars and make dosh the easy way.

Else, wouldn't have an Orca without FF for extended periods of time with CCP servers (tm), got my Orca tackled several times because of socket closed and subsequent *why do I see both my Orca and a bomber in the same direction on dscan, when it shows my Orca still being cloaked*
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2014-08-14 14:16:33 UTC
I personally like the idea of carrier + dread + orca and nomading through with that. Plenty of space for any ships you'll need and the ability to escalate and farm super easy. The only downside is that C5s are your only option.

Nomading through C3s is p difficult since once you get to one, you aren't heading to another WH unless someone rolls into you. C4s may be better if you have multiple accounts (read like 2) so that you can run the C4 sites.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Tim Nering
R3d Fire
#7 - 2014-08-14 14:36:00 UTC
I had i post about this last year....I never did it. It's really a lot of trouble for something u can hs dive. But.... it's cool! And if u think this is fun you should do it. U might want to be sure ur pve ship works tho. Test it before jumping orcas. And never not marauder.

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superginger21
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-08-14 18:04:33 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
You do realize that the post about living out of an orca was a super lel troll made by a well known highsec ganker to troll people into taking unguarded orcas into wormhole space right?

Also that C3 fit is ******* awful. What makes the marauders more efficient is they do 100% of their DPS to battleships, can smartbomb frigs, salvage as you run the site, and can refit painters and tracking computers and do 96% of their dps to cruisers.

Anyone who says sleipnir and c3 in the same sentence is trolling you...

sooo go for vargur? how should i fit it?
Hans Bonderstadt
#9 - 2014-08-15 02:22:38 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
You do realize that the post about living out of an orca was a super lel troll made by a well known highsec ganker to troll people into taking unguarded orcas into wormhole space right?

Also that C3 fit is ******* awful. What makes the marauders more efficient is they do 100% of their DPS to battleships, can smartbomb frigs, salvage as you run the site, and can refit painters and tracking computers and do 96% of their dps to cruisers.

Anyone who says sleipnir and c3 in the same sentence is trolling you...

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You must obey!
superginger21 wrote:
sooo go for vargur? how should i fit it?

Eve-survival has all the DPS's and stuff for the sites, i cant imagine the fit would be blingy at all, a marauder should easily tank the sites without too much bling, and if you go marauder, i hear some things about solo C4 sites...

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#10 - 2014-08-15 10:45:57 UTC
Whilst trying to balance making a sensible suggestion against the fun of a good kill, I feel honour bound to make the following suggestion.

To OP.
Whilst the rewards of wormhole space will seem very tempting. I suggest you ask yourself the following question.

Once you have discovered a system, with good sites to run, and you are happily chewing through sleepers, salvaging as you go, what is your escape plan once you are discovered?
As as a matter of certainty, you will be discovered. maybe not the first day, but it will happen.

Trying to extract a marauder, solo , through multiple wormholes, that are secured and bubbled, will not end well.
It is unlikely that you will fund your losses.

Now I am not saying you have no options, but this is the First question you should be asking, and not hoping that Somehow it will work out with a good fit. Plan your escape.

The second question you should be asking, is what is the best overall ship? not just the most effective sleeper killer. And would You be better off with a T3? Refitting from a mobile depot? Or even a Stratios initially, And run the appropriate sites, Particularly as one will need to perfect one's scanning and particularly ones Dscan skills.

Yes the lower class wormholes have poor income, but one can grow, and maybe join a wormhole corp to provide better security.

Wormhole space, Is our home, we love it, and we welcome new players either as fellow dwellers and hunters or brave visitors.
Good luck, and plan well.

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