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Pepper Swift
Perkone
Caldari State
#81 - 2014-08-21 14:37:34 UTC
you guys all need to do this for 10 hours..

What I need most.. is a day between Saturday and Sunday...

If life gives you melons, you might be dyslexic
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Doomheim
#82 - 2014-08-21 14:54:56 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Handar Turiant wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Actually the issues between the Israelis and the Palestinians are heavily due to the massive zionist movement in the early to mid 1900's and the fall of the Ottoman Empire. This book, Lawrence and Aaronsohn: T. E. Lawrence, Aaron Aaronsohn, and the Seeds of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, is quite informative on the billows that started the fire that continues to rage in the Middle East.

Not one of the Abrahamic religious texts, which were all written by those with the means and motivation to subdue the non educated masses, is without numerous violent passages. Unfortunately the extremists of all of those religions pervert those words into action while the rest of the followers interpret the 1000 times more prevalent passages of peace and understanding into mild to non action.


In addition to the above, try The Arabs, a History by Eugene Rogan. Highly readable, extremely well researched. Covers the fall of the Ottoman empire until now.

Sleevenote:

Eugene Rogan has written an authoritative new history of the Arabs in the modern world. Starting with the Ottoman conquests in the sixteenth century, this landmark book follows the story of the Arabs through the era of European imperialism and the Superpower rivalries of the Cold War, to the present age of unipolar American power. Drawing on the writings and eyewitness accounts of those who lived through the tumultuous years of Arab history, The Arabs balances different voices - politicians, intellectuals, students, men and women, poets and novelists, famous, infamous and the completely unknown - to give a rich, complex sense of life over nearly five centuries.

Rogan's book is remarkable for its geographical sweep, covering the Arab world from North Africa through the Arabian Peninsula, and for the depth in which it explores every facet of modern Arab history. Charting the evolution of Arab identity from Ottomanism to Arabism to Islamism, it covers themes including the conflict between national independence and foreign domination, the Arab-Israeli struggle and the peace process, Abdel Nasser and the rise of Arab Nationalism, the political and economic power of oil and the conflict between secular and Islamic values.

This multilayered, fascinating and definitive work is the essential guide to understanding the history of the modern Arab world - and its future.


Be careful what you believe. Rogan is one of the surnames used by the elite who own this world. Looking at his associations, particularly the Saudis, and his credentials, I would say it is extremely likely that Eugene Rogan is one of the agents of the NWO.

The winners of wars are always trying to rewrite history to make the other guy look like the bad guy. Look how often people condemn everything bad as "****" when practically none has ever heard one speak.

Edit: Even the word "NA ZI" has been made into a bad word, apparently. Ugh

Right now they want people to believe that the Palistinians aren't a real people and that somehow, Isrealis, backed by the US government and Britain, have mysterious right to come in and pushed people off their lands because at one point in history, thousands of years ago, jews lived there once.

Sadly, this gross injustice seems to be mostly ignored by the sheeple, despite Israels careless and deliberate killing off innocent childen, they continue to regurgitate Islamophobe propaganda and victim blame the Palestinians. The television has trained them well.


I'm not about to get into a debate when a bunch of sheeple kneejerk-screaming "TINFOIL!", so lets just leave it at that.


How about you read the book, and then discover that Rogan has a very eloquent and long defense on the palestinian cause in it.... Instead of reading someone's name and jumping to an entirely ludicrous conclusion. Roll


So does Noam Chomsky. These people are meant to be the heroes. It is possible you don't understand how the NWO operates. The best way to control the opposition is to lead it. I'm not sure if Rogan is an agent of the NWO, I'm just saying that it is possible, despite what he has written, its hard to ignore the associations he has.

Just because someone has written a book that you entirely agree with, doesn't mean they aren't working for your worst enemy.

The vast majority of people don't comprehend the meta of mind control in the 21st century. In before the "Tinfoil!"-shrieking sheeple monkeys.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#83 - 2014-08-21 15:00:16 UTC
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
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Jews and Arabs had lived peacefully together for thousands of years


You fail in history and religion. There were always some tensions. And not thousands, these all religions are less than few thousand years old, as judaism was reformed.




I've taken college courses on the Ancient Near-East, kid. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. When did I say anything about religion? Evera heard of the Islamic Golden age? Educate yourself before you embarrass yourself further. I know this is the EVE forums but at least TRY to support whatever you learned from Fox news before you try to correct people.

Took me 2 seconds to find this on google. Get Rekt.

"Middle-East During the Middle Ages (5th – 15th Century)

The European Middle Ages was also known in history as the “Islamic Golden Age” . During this period much of the world’s scientific progress came from Muslim countries while Europe was still in the “Dark Ages”. Advancements in medicine, astronomy, philosophy, poetry, mathematics were made during this time. These advancements were not only made by Muslims, but Jews as well. Jewish scientists were allowed to practice their religion, and were able to contribute to scientific advancements.

Non-Muslims had very prominent positions in this era. One example is The Islamic Sultan Saladin had many personal physicians that were Christians, and Jews. The most famous of Saladin’s Jewish physicians was Maimonides, who was also one of the greatest Jewish scholars. In the middle-ages Muslims, Christians, and Jews not only lived in peace, but also were trusted colleagues in scientific progress."

http://kookyplanet.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/moments-in-history-that-jews-and-arabs-lived-in-peace/


Truth be told, whenever I heard someone say the words "cultural incompatibility", I immediately think "racist!".

There is only one prominent "holy book" that contains the view that all outsiders are similar to cattle and that its ok to ****, steal and murder them, and its not the Quran. Islamophobic propaganda is strong and the sheep are many.


Have you ever read Quran? The rise of the Islamic fundamentalism in India? Massacres of Jews in the past? You know nothing because you were informed badly. If you would be informed correctly, and I don't mean zionist propaganda, you would know what does it mean to wage Jihad to the world. Jihad is the religuous duty of every Muslim. You can see what Jihad means when you turn your eyes to the Iraq, don't close it, you have seen the cutting of the head of the american reporter? And if you try to say to me, that peacefull coexistence means that massacre or pogrom is the choosing of the massacred Jews or other thinking person, that were not willing to convert, then I will say to you, better convert to Islam now, before they will come to you, at least you will have what you deserved.



Ah, an Islamophobe. How typical. I'm sure you don't even even know any muslims personally and are just regurgitating what the television has led you to believe.

You know nothing of Islam. Try supporting your ridiculous claims with some evidence if you want anyone to take you seriously. Right now you just look like a product of Faux news, repeating blatant lies and propaganda. The reason there is so much Islamophobia is because there is money being poured into creating it that is from another religious group.

Sharia law in London? WOW LolRoll

Hard to believe anyone can actually fall for such ridiculous Islamophobe propaganda.


I dont fear Islam, I despise it, same as every religion.
I know one of very dedicated muslims, I have discussed with him all the muslim religion and Jihad and I know what dumb things are people able to believe. I call it the selective ignorancy. Try to see the whole picture, not only the idealised one.

Sharia in London? Why not? Who will stop them? You? Let's be serious.




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Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2014-08-21 15:01:10 UTC
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:


So does Noam Chomsky. These people are meant to be the heroes. It is possible you don't understand how the NWO operates. The best way to control the opposition is to lead it. I'm not sure if Rogan is an agent of the NWO, I'm just saying that it is possible, despite what he has written, its hard to ignore the associations he has.

Just because someone has written a book that you entirely agree with, doesn't mean they aren't working for your worst enemy.

The vast majority of people don't comprehend the meta of mind control in the 21st century. In before the "Tinfoil!"-shrieking sheeple monkeys.



I'm sorry? Entirely agree with? It's a good book, but I never said I agree with everything in it. Recommending something doesn't mean you recite it to your kids as religion.

By your logic, it is possible that everyone, ever, is a NWO agent. How do you distinguish? Explain more on the meta mind control please: I'm interested.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#85 - 2014-08-21 15:26:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Doomheim
#86 - 2014-08-21 15:43:10 UTC  |  Edited by: NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Handar Turiant wrote:
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:


So does Noam Chomsky. These people are meant to be the heroes. It is possible you don't understand how the NWO operates. The best way to control the opposition is to lead it. I'm not sure if Rogan is an agent of the NWO, I'm just saying that it is possible, despite what he has written, its hard to ignore the associations he has.

Just because someone has written a book that you entirely agree with, doesn't mean they aren't working for your worst enemy.

The vast majority of people don't comprehend the meta of mind control in the 21st century. In before the "Tinfoil!"-shrieking sheeple monkeys.



I'm sorry? Entirely agree with? It's a good book, but I never said I agree with everything in it. Recommending something doesn't mean you recite it to your kids as religion.

By your logic, it is possible that everyone, ever, is a NWO agent. How do you distinguish? Explain more on the meta mind control please: I'm interested.


No, and that was just an example. I wasn't saying you agree with everything he wrote.

you said my conclusion was ludicrous. I'm not sure if i want to make the effort to explain to you. You need to have a certain level of understanding before you will understand what I'm saying or it will just make you more confused.

Let me ask you some questions.

Do you support the existence of Israel?

Do you like Obama?

Are you familiar with George Orwell's works, such as 1984?

Of the US congress, do you blame democrats, republicans, or our government as a whole for wrongs that are done?
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#87 - 2014-08-21 15:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
I do not think disbanding the nation would solve any problems, but considering that the only reason money poured into the Zionist movement was because the man I mentioned earlier found that Triticum dicoccoides (citation below) was growing on Mount Hermon, I am not a supporter of Israel either. This mother of wheat showed that agriculture was not only viable in the region but was able to host a pure ancient emmer able to provide most of its own pollination. This discovery is the primary force that was used to garner the funds to push the Zionist movement into full force. It was then proven that money could be made in the area and the number of Jewish settlers that acquired 'their' land during this period followed the same deviousness that all settlers used centuries before during European colonization of the West. If Aaronsohn had not found this plant growing I believe whole heartedly the Zionist movement would still be a stagnant force as it was prior to 1908. I am not going to call out sides, but the Jewish people fled the desert and only small groups wanted to even go back as most Jewish people, of the late 1800's, thought the region to beyond any ability to assist their urges for the advancement of their people on the world scene. Once they found those fears to be false the came in and practically stole the land from the Palestinians that controlled abandoned land for ages.


Wild emmer wheat, Triticum dicoccoides[Triticum turgidum (L) Thell. ssp. dicoccoides(Koern) Thell.] with genome AABB, was discovered in Northern Israel by Aaron Aaronsohn in 1906 (Aaronsohn 1910). It is the tetraploid, predominantly self-pollinated, wild progenitor from which modern tetraploid and hexaploid cultivated wheats were derived (Zohary 1970). The distribution center of T. dicoccoides is found in the catchment area of the upper Jordan Valley in Israel and the vicinity (Nevo and Beiles 1989). Wild emmer wheat is an important genetic resource that could be exploited in breeding for resistance to a broad range of diseases, pests, and for tolerance to poor soil and climatic factors (Nevo 1983, 1989, 1995). Among many agriculturally important characteristics already found in T. dicoccoides is its resistance to stripe rust (Gerechter-Amitai and Stubbs 1970; Nevo et al. 1986; Fahima et al. 1998), stem rust (Nevo et al. 1991), and powdery mildew (Nevo et al. 1985). Wild emmer wheat contains rich and variable genetic resources that will play a major role in future wheat improvement (Nevo 1983,1989, 1995).
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#88 - 2014-08-21 16:52:46 UTC
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As this thread has gotten out of hand, I will be closing it now. Thank you all for your participation in it.

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