Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Are you being deliberately dense? If EVERYONE is short on Mex, how is more mining going to solve it? More mining will just make the price of the other minerals tank. Our own spreadsheet autism warriors have determined that Mex is where it's at. You would have to deplete any single mining anom a minimum of twenty times in order to get enough Mex to build 100 battleships or 1 super carrier. To get the Trit and Pyerite you would only need to strip out an anom ten and twelve times respectively. Actually I like this idea of more mining as it will make Trit and Pye cost about 1 ISK a unit. Oh how you highsec pubbies will cry that your miners are not making any money.

You want to know why Arkanor, Bistot, and Crokite, are doing so poorly against Hedbergite and Hemorphite? Well you only need to mine any one of the anoms once to get enough Megacite, and three times to get enough Zydrine for that super carrier, or one hundred battleships. In my opinion that is pretty backwards. It should be we have to mine out an anom, twenty times to get enough Megacite and only once to get enough Trit, for 100 battleships. That would encourage actually going into the belts to cherrypick the ABCs, rather than sticking to the anoms. Before you say "Well go into the belts to get Mex then." there isn't enough there either, and it doesn't respawn instantly like the anoms, so it is a one and done kind of thing.

That's an awesome idea, lets mine enough roids to gather the mex we need then crash the mineral markets in highsec with our unnecessary excess's, its already happening with zydrine and megacyte, why not push the prices of everything that's not mex into the ground just so we have enough mex.


CCP are aware of this issue already and did try to help it in the cirus patch, but it hasn't gone far enough. even tripling the amount they added to arkonor wont cover the short fall, but would start to help a little more.

double or triple the amount of mex in arkonor and gneisis would start pulling the mineral back into line, but still isn't enough



ships that cannot be built in highsec

Why fight for Mex, when we have a virtual Chinese labor camp in higsec willing to mine it for us for a pittance? The thing is we want to be empires out in nullsec not colonies dependent on higsec.


Titans, Super carriers, Dreadnoughts, Carriers, jump freighters, freighters, Battleships, and with the Cirius changes to jump drive fuel usage, Battle cruisers, and even cruisers. Everything else, even frigate hulls, is low volume enough to have hundreds if not thousands jump freightered out from Jita.

So you are one of the very cool kids that pee icecubes in nullsec and never mined one single rock in New Eden?

I hate to brake it to you, bro, but Plagioclase is one of the most common rocks in all Caldari 0.5 systems and Kernite is all over place in the lower highsec regions of Kador and Khanid.

That didn't change at all in eight years since I am here.

My 0.02 isk worth, how about just increasing the size of some of the lower end ores in the belts/anoms, you know so that you can fill more than 2 jetcans from a single rock like you can with the higher end ores.

iirc in the Large belt each Plag rock is about 2 jetcans, and each Ark rock is about 8 to 10 jetcans (maybe more, been a while since I mined).

Gosh, it's almost like they designed it to be that way...

High sec manufacturers have to import megacyte and zydrine from 0.0 and 0.0 has to import mexallon from high sec. HTFU and STFU

It shouldn't be that way.

Nullseccers are part of player controlled empires. They should not be depending on the (eloquently put) Chinese labor camps of high-sec. They are their own entity, self-reliance is crucial.
It defeats part of the purpose of owning space; being able to play by your control and by your rules.

In a recent update ccp increased some of the lower end minerals in nullsec ores, but specifically left out mexallon from this increase. One could infer from this choice that they do indeed want mex to be in shorter supply out in null.

No one including CCP ever said that nul was supposed to be 100% independent from the rest of the EVE universe. The simple fact that CCP increased mex in nul sec ores but only by a small amount is all the proof that you should need to realize this.

Start a high sec mining corp to fill your mex needs.
Start a trading alt and ply the space ways of high sec and buy it off the market.
Hey here is another thought, go blow the hell out of those sitting on the choices sources of mex in nul and take it over, after all that's what nul is for right, I mean controlling your own destiny, making your own rules and all the crap.

As with everything else in EVE there are balances, we cannot get the ores needed for zydrine and megacyte in high sec and it is not that common in low. The balance to that is mex, the ores it can be reprocessed from are common in all areas of high sec space. CCP's intent here is obvious to the rest of us. But what the hell this is typical of the we are nul sec we are entitled to have it all our way type of crap.

I actually did that yesterday and found that the other corp members have already striped the belts clean of anything with mex in it.