Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The biggest bottleneck to nullsec production at present is mexallon.

if you take the present composition of the nullsec ore belts, mexallon is by far the most lacking item.
out of a standard bulid from nullsec ores, I can get
100% tri,
96% pye,
100% isogen,
250% zydrine,
150%megacyte

yet I struggle with mexallon at a miserable 9 to 10% of the minerals required

Nullsec minerals need more mexallon, it is now the largest bottle neck to nullsec production.

And as ABC's are Still worth less than lowsec ores (hedbergite, hemorphite, jaspet,(kernite)) their is plenty of room to add more mexallon to the highends

highsec is for the lowends, tri and pyrite.

mexallon is the only mineral that's price wasn't affected by the cirus Patch. which means its is short supply in highsec too.

Mexallon is only found in 3 highsec ores, but is found in 2 lowsec, 2 nullsec ores. and kernite / plagioclase isn't found in all highsec systems

so your claim to it being a highsec only ore is foofoo


its a bottle neck for all production. more is needed in nullsec for sure, but all space needs an injection of it

Nox has more use in T2 as well, plus zydrine can be found in meta 1 loot reprocessing (in a few months will die off)

And what does foofoo mean?

As for Mex in space, what is needed is more mining in lower security space. But since ganks and the occasional belt rat pop happen there, and veld is really good, there is no reason to. Which is the part you arent addressing. Are your miners going to plunder additional rock for the mex, or do you just want it left as is with the extra mex added to current mining loads?

as you so well put, at present, the lowsec ores are the most valuable, even more so that the "highends" in nullsec
all of which needs balancing back towards "highends" being valuable rather than the lowgrade nullsec ores being the most valuable.

if needed, I could spend the few hours needed to put the figures into correlation, but at this time of day, I really cannot be assed.

so, if you mined EVERY roid in the lvl 1 to 4 belts in nullsec you would get
Arkonor 1.9m mex
Gneiss 2.8m mex
Hemorphite 96k mex
Jaspet 840k mex
Kernite 4.23m mex
Plagioclase 2m mex

so just shy of 12m mexallon in 4 nullsec belts with a combined m3 total of 40.5million m3

so 40.5 m3 of
arkonor will get you 5.8m megacyte
arkonor will get you 2.88m zydrine
arkonor will get you 174m trit
Bistot will get you 417m Pyerite
Crokite will get you 528m trit
Crokite will get you 9.2m zydrine
Spodumain will get you 987 m Trit
Veldspar will get you 1,671m Trit


going by the present price of 48 isk pu for mex and 5.45 for trit
theirs 576m worth of mex or 9.1b trit for the same amount of mining

and your telling me their balanced???

the figures above show that the present mex supply is only around 6% of the present ore content

ask any corp that builds with what they mine in nullsec and see what minerals they have to import 90% of the time they will mention mex

ever used a jf to import 500m mex a month?

Came expecting gate camp tears. Found industry thread.

Left slightly confused.

their simply isn't enough of those roids in a system to cover the quantities.
even if you mine every roid in all the hidden belts you only get 15 to 20m mex, and to mine every one of those belts out takes 60 hulks 6 hours at perfect skills or 100 hulks 6 hours with average skills without drones

their simply isn't a high enough density of mex to supply nullsec buliders the quantities they need.

to import the quantities via compressed ore, 250m mex in compressed ore works out at
26 Billion isk of compressed Gneiss
27b compressed kernite
22b compressed plagioclase

Iunno, compression seems to be an option. Lower density, but not THAT much lower.

Buy from your local miners around you instead of in Jita?

Then maybe encourage mining, and run formal mining ops too.... and teach how to mine and so on, like you put effort into PVP. Industry is almost entirely self-taught from what I've seen and very few null blocks actually teach much about how to mine more efficiently, put up mining boosts and other basic efforts to maximize incoming minerals and such.