These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Intergalactic Summit

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Stormcrows: Killers of 2034 Slaves

Author
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#241 - 2014-08-25 14:23:19 UTC
Verin, will you ever just take the bait instead of grabbing the line and pulling the fisherman down to be devoured? I mean, you make us shitposters look so very bad.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Vinh Trahn
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
#242 - 2014-08-25 14:29:45 UTC
I believe it is time for a personal tale to put things in perspective.

The number of slaves rescued and killed in this endeavor is at a point where the personal suffering of in question is overlooked with regards to the greater evil of slavery that plagues the cluster.

So I want to share something with you. As a survivor of a similar sort of situation.

Many years ago, before I was granted the option to become a capsuleer an illegal raid was carried out upon the station I was employed at. Amongst those taken in there were both my wife and my daughter at the time. And of course many of our kin.

I do not know the precise identity of these raiders, I remember the gold and beige corridors. And in between everything I remember the screams, the cries. I remember the hand of my daughter pried from my own when being split up according to gender.

We were but an hour in the flight, huddled in cargo bays. Dimly lit and scared, angry, confused. When the alarms started blaring throughout the ship. Explosions in the distance at first and then tearing through the hull of the transport. Lights failing, screams in the darkness.

Strangely it was one who currently flies with the flock that was the one intercepting the transport. One whom I have become rather close with over the years following.

Few of us survived, me being amongst them. My wife and daughter, to the extent of my knowledge, were lost. And believe me I have looked, and am still looking.

Of course I felt the anger at first, the attack on an unarmed transport, the death of my family, my friends, my kin. I understand everyone here crying out against.

But if you were to ask me, I say keep the attacks up, keep fighting. Because I would rather be dead than be in chains. While I do not rest easy at all I rest easier knowing those I love are not in imperial hands.

That those I love are not subjected to slavery, to exploitation, to torment.

Fear not this night. You will not go astray. Though shadows fall still the stars find their way.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#243 - 2014-08-25 14:50:28 UTC
When Gradient, In Exile and PIE cooperate to frustrate your agenda - I think you can safely be called an enemy of humanity.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Aracturus
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#244 - 2014-08-25 15:01:39 UTC
Arista Shahni wrote:


Some can and will argue (rightly) that ships piloted by Capsuleers require far less crew, and therefore we are "saving lives".

Some can and will argue (rightly) that many baseliner crew are paid, and chose freely to do the work they do; that they have taken these jobs willingly, with full knowlege of the risks. Perhaps even the same for the occasional Exotic Dancer.

Some will argue (rightly) that many causes are not simply 'our wars' as private Capsuleer corporations go. We do not exist and function in a vaccuum, nor were we generated spontaneously with purpose derived later. We were and are an answer, a first step, in wars that have been raging for centuries. We were born of the baseliners - we *were them*, once, and are a product of their decisions to use a capsuleer program and our own decision to participate.

But yes. The crew die anyway. In droves. Even in a sense, 'by accident'. Nearly every Capsuleer would rather dock home in their ship than a pod, and will comfort themelves if they do dock up in a pod or wake in a tank that the numbers of baseliners required to operate their ship-now-wreck was far lower with an Infomorph Piloting the starship. They will comfort themelves with the percentage of lifepods that found their way to stations. They comfort themseves with the 'lives saved'.

Fourteen trillion (estimated) crew of capsuleer vessels alone have died over the last decade. The number of 'brilliant lives' lost in Baseliner operated ships of all factions, 'legal' and 'illegal' by CONCORD rating has not even been measured.

These numbers are the populations of entire star systems. Countless lives, stories are now silent, known only to God.

The scale of these numbers have reduced the dead to numbers, and nothing else because they are too large to encompass, even with an Infomorph brain capacity. We simply can not encapsulate the scope of the loss, truly, in our minds. We are incapable. One may as well try and comprehend the mind of God before trying to fully comprehend what we have done.
.


5edgy3me.

Seriously ari, did we run out of coffee at the Noir? You could have just said so instead of going on warpath.

This is now a WIDOT thread!

Jace Sarice
#245 - 2014-08-25 15:08:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jace Sarice
The difficulty with all of this is the publicity. Surely everyone is aware that Naupilus orchestrates his actions based upon the reaction they will get and the amount of people that will notice him. This is not unique to the Intergalactic Summit by any means, but why should it be encouraged?

If pilots and organizations feel the need to seek him out, by all means continue to do so - but why encourage the public posturing by continual responses to his rantings and ravings? It would be far more effective to let him be destroyed in relative silence by not supporting his advertising campaigns. Unless, of course, his publicity also serves the narcissism of others.
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#246 - 2014-08-25 15:14:52 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
When Gradient, In Exile and PIE cooperate to frustrate your agenda - I think you can safely be called an enemy of humanity.


Getting Gradient and PIE to agree on something (Given our what, six year long mutual war?) should be noted in history books. The fact In Exile (And by extension, PYRE) and Stormcrows also are in agreement proves that, yes, Nauplius sucks just THAT much.

PS. Thank you to those mentioned above. Yesterday, 4500 people were freed from this madman.

“Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.” 

― C.S. Lewis 

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#247 - 2014-08-25 16:00:12 UTC
Aracturus wrote:
Seriously ari, did we run out of coffee at the Noir? You could have just said so instead of going on warpath.

That some may already know, understand and accept the message does not mean it should not be stated anyway.

All of what she said, needed to be said, and bears repeating on a regular basis.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#248 - 2014-08-25 16:00:28 UTC
Jace Sarice wrote:
The difficulty with all of this is the publicity. Surely everyone is aware that Naupilus orchestrates his actions based upon the reaction they will get and the amount of people that will notice him. This is not unique to the Intergalactic Summit by any means, but why should it be encouraged?

If pilots and organizations feel the need to seek him out, by all means continue to do so - but why encourage the public posturing by continual responses to his rantings and ravings? It would be far more effective to let him be destroyed in relative silence by not supporting his advertising campaigns. Unless, of course, his publicity also serves the narcissism of others.


On the upside, if Nauplius kept doing what he's doing we might see an era of peace and prosperity...in any place that doesn't have Nauplius in it.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Jace Sarice
#249 - 2014-08-25 16:13:17 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

On the upside, if Nauplius kept doing what he's doing we might see an era of peace and prosperity...in any place that doesn't have Nauplius in it.


I was not commenting on the actual conflict, merely the publicity generated by it.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#250 - 2014-08-25 17:22:38 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
The fact In Exile (And by extension, PYRE) and Stormcrows also are in agreement proves that, yes, Nauplius sucks just THAT much.


Ms. Starfire,

I would say for the record that there exists no official agreement on anything at all beyond the prosecution of a contractual obligation on the part of PYRE.

Personally, I do not share any moral or ethical outrage as regards events and matters in question. For if I were to express them, I feel it would be nothing more than an affectation of hypocrisy on my part. I am comfortable with the blood on my own hands, as such I can prefer to be honest with myself and say I fail to care overmuch emotionally for bodycount statistics.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#251 - 2014-08-25 17:31:31 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
The fact In Exile (And by extension, PYRE) and Stormcrows also are in agreement proves that, yes, Nauplius sucks just THAT much.


Ms. Starfire,

I would say for the record that there exists no official agreement on anything at all beyond the prosecution of a contractual obligation on the part of PYRE.

Personally, I do not share any moral or ethical outrage as regards events and matters in question. For if I were to express them, I feel it would be nothing more than an affectation of hypocrisy on my part. I am comfortable with the blood on my own hands, as such I can prefer to be honest with myself and say I fail to care overmuch emotionally for bodycount statistics.


You're just bitter because you didn't get the skiing holiday, right?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#252 - 2014-08-25 17:36:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Nauplius wrote:
The fleet even began hunting my poor, innocent Industrial pilot and brother, Clytoneus — who was only following orders — gatecamping him and trying to shoot his pod.


He's your brother?

Good to know.

Quote:
The worst was yet to come. A representative from Gradient corporation, enemies of the Empire, arrived in system and took possession of the surviving slaves. Yes, that is right — PIE and In Exile were working together to shoot lawful members of the 24th Imperial Crusade and turn any surviving slaves over to — of all people — Gradient. This is treason.


Repeating this doesn't make it any more true. Stormcrows offered their recoveries to Gradient. PIE has not.

But it wouldn't matter whether the recovered slaves stay in the Empire or go to the Republic, they are better off anywhere that is away from you.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#253 - 2014-08-25 18:17:42 UTC
... ah, pity. Ah well, PIE staying true to form is to be expected. I'll just go drag that pleasant surprise behind the shed and have it shot, shall I?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#254 - 2014-08-25 18:31:15 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
The fact In Exile (And by extension, PYRE) and Stormcrows also are in agreement proves that, yes, Nauplius sucks just THAT much.


Ms. Starfire,

I would say for the record that there exists no official agreement on anything at all beyond the prosecution of a contractual obligation on the part of PYRE.

Personally, I do not share any moral or ethical outrage as regards events and matters in question. For if I were to express them, I feel it would be nothing more than an affectation of hypocrisy on my part. I am comfortable with the blood on my own hands, as such I can prefer to be honest with myself and say I fail to care overmuch emotionally for bodycount statistics.


You're just bitter because you didn't get the skiing holiday, right?


Bitterness often presupposes regrets of which I have none, and that aside I have felt no current need for a recreational hiatus from my present work.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#255 - 2014-08-25 21:47:21 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin, Ladies and Gentlemen. Available for work functions, wedding functions and children's parties.

Well, okay, not wedding functions.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Shiori Shaishi
Doomheim
#256 - 2014-08-25 21:59:23 UTC
The small gods governing structural collapse do seem to favor the Stormcrows. Maybe it's a sign?
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#257 - 2014-08-25 22:59:38 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
The fact In Exile (And by extension, PYRE) and Stormcrows also are in agreement proves that, yes, Nauplius sucks just THAT much.


Ms. Starfire,

I would say for the record that there exists no official agreement on anything at all beyond the prosecution of a contractual obligation on the part of PYRE.

Personally, I do not share any moral or ethical outrage as regards events and matters in question. For if I were to express them, I feel it would be nothing more than an affectation of hypocrisy on my part. I am comfortable with the blood on my own hands, as such I can prefer to be honest with myself and say I fail to care overmuch emotionally for bodycount statistics.


I am not Ava Starfire.

“Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.” 

― C.S. Lewis 

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#258 - 2014-08-25 23:36:50 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin, Ladies and Gentlemen. Available for work functions, wedding functions and children's parties.

Well, okay, not wedding functions.


Only when the service fee is paid up front and the contracting party is aware of the use and function of ground beacons in a Tactical Orbital Strike.

Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
I am not Ava Starfire.


My apologies, Sebiestor can all look the same for me at times.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#259 - 2014-08-26 01:09:59 UTC
More i hear of Nauplius' foolishness more im tempted join the hunt if not only briefly, unfortunately my duties seem to work against me being able to venture into known space for extended periods of time.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#260 - 2014-08-26 04:14:52 UTC
Naraish Adarn wrote:
More i hear of Nauplius' foolishness more im tempted join the hunt if not only briefly, unfortunately my duties seem to work against me being able to venture into known space for extended periods of time.


If you are doing that, do me a favour and send my regards to him in the form of live ammunition. I'm stuck doing planetside duties as of late. Testing new automation algorithm on the extractor heads and container-tram system.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.