Wormholes

i think fozzie said that the amount of ore minned has been stable.
He didn't say anything about the number of people.

Funny, I remember them saying they didn't care because the MWDing battleships they roll with will still be in jump range anyway.

I guess peple hear what they want to hear.

Your going to find a few folk still rolling, but the longer time it takes then more folk will go do something else, so when we do have some fun stuff, its going to be for a lot less of us that are still logged on.

Thanks for that interesting post Mr Bert

You do raise some interesting posts.
I will comment on a couple and add a couple more.

Firstly Thank you to Corbexx, he is doing a truly amazing Job, and I thank him for that. I agree that it would be a great help both to him and to us that if there was a second CSM to assist in his efforts.

You mention that we should all get together en mass and well do stuff.
Unfortunately, one of the features that is present in wormhole players, is we do not actually like that, we actually value our independence, and whilst we can play well with others, we do like smaller gatherings.

Now regarding the mass spawn mechanic, its actual physical effects and the switch from complex but predefined mechanics that can be discovered with great effort, to enable living in a space that was previously thought impossible, to the less expensive in time and effort method, where luck or chance determines how the application presents, and the result thereof.

We simply do not seem to be able to effect change with discussion, reasoned argument, or any other rational process, and do not have the numbers or coordination to totally disrupt the game to force the management of CCP to actually realise that they are their own worst enemy by following this route.

So when reasoned argument fails, then argument is of no value.

I will not extrapolate from there to pontificate as to what the effects will be for CCP, but if one decides to totally change the formula that has allowed wormhole space to thrive, and for EVE to survive for the time it has, then I really hope the MBAs have saved their wages and cashed in their share options if they have them.

As for the employees and customers, well sorry, just collateral damage.

But who knows, maybe players will relish the excitement of blowing up when they have no opportunity to control their fate?

Try looking up the WH classes instead of down.
It's where the best ore sites and thus the multiboxing miners are.

Is there a recording of this somewhere??

Corp A rolls into Corp B, Corp B has another static that they will play with and just keep a scout in Corp A wh and a cloaky bubbler /a cloaky interceptor on their side. Corp A has to either be able to take Corp B in a fight or log off, Corp B is much smaller so they log off, people in corp B get bored of not doing **** after a few times off rolling into a bigger Corp and logging off because they can't do **** about it so they decide to do something else and either leave the game or the corp and join a bigger corp.

Of course ragerolling also got nerfed so big corps are gonna have a "harder" time finding content for their big numbers, maybe this will counterbalance the need to have a big corp and they will grow smaller again but lets be honest smaller corps also need to roll a lot so its not really gonna do ****, that's ignoring the fact that ragerolling is just gonna take 2 more people(rapier+ceptor) to roll with and 1-2min(cap warping to safe made by ceptor while being webbed by loki) more per hole.

and it also seems like they have no real reason for this change other than to change **** up and see what happens wich is just so freaking dumb, the reason because w-space is stagnating is so freaking ridiculous as well, maybe try doing something similar to nullsec then(the space where everyone agrees is stagnating and not the space that i don't think anyone says is stagnating)

i'm gonna keep playing to and hope its not as bad as i am expecting it to be but i think it will be.

Hi Studley!

At least you could choose to do the loot spew, wait, not if you did exploration.
So the same as this really, you have to put up with this if you want to live in wormhole space.

It will probably end up the same way then, pity it is not so easy to rebuild your life in wormhole space after leaving.

Will there be anyone left to give a damn by that time? Seems they wish to destroy any ability for the players to suspend disbelief that is needed to play a game, so maybe they are just ensuring that anyone who leaves, grows up to the point, they will never play any other game.

Thats a win isn't it?

Funny, I thought CCP was a business, and not an educational authority.

Just wait for the change, and jump it through a wormhole a couple of times.
It is after all just a matter of luck as to whether it lands safely or in the middle of a pile of crap.
Nothing you can do to change that, just roll the dice.

But may as well self destruct it, it may not be any more or less fun, but it will be less frustrating.
Just don't do either with the archon.

Speaking of mining, in our home C2 we will occasionally have people mining in bait Procurers, hoping to catch stupid people. It has resulted in multiple kills. We have others who claim to be baiting, though a Retriever or Covetor isn't exactly good bait *cough* (Those instances resulted in multiple losses)

Before Odyssey, this generally did not happen, and our mining sites generally disappeared after a few days with nary a mining vessel in sight.

I would hypothesize that some of the slack from real mining ops has been taken up by bait mining ops. And there is also the point that was raised about making things safer than before with instant and free intel.