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Gor Yo
Taxes Shmuckses
#1 - 2014-08-10 09:38:57 UTC
hi all
is there any consensus in EVE community as to how how ship behaves in warp? how long does it take to cover the distance of certain number of AU? how long the ship accelerates and decelerates? any formulas out there?
also, does ship's warp speed affect gate jumping times?
Dave Stark
#2 - 2014-08-10 09:40:21 UTC
pretty sure all of that information is in the dev blog they released when they announced the warp changes that happened.. last year? or something.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2014-08-10 09:40:33 UTC
Gor Yo
Taxes Shmuckses
#4 - 2014-08-10 09:43:38 UTC
yeah, I saw it, and the speed formula v = k.e^(k.t) doesnt make sense because v already equals k, which is max warp speed, at time t=0.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2014-08-10 10:13:08 UTC
Gor Yo wrote:
yeah, I saw it, and the speed formula v = k.e^(k.t) doesnt make sense because v already equals k, which is max warp speed, at time t=0.

No, this is not a correct interpretation.

k affects acceleration and deceleration. It is not the same as max warp speed.
Gor Yo
Taxes Shmuckses
#6 - 2014-08-10 10:17:42 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Gor Yo wrote:
yeah, I saw it, and the speed formula v = k.e^(k.t) doesnt make sense because v already equals k, which is max warp speed, at time t=0.

No, this is not a correct interpretation.

k affects acceleration and deceleration. It is not the same as max warp speed.


first, at t=0 the speed v must be 0 also (or in our case 3/4 of max subwarp speed which is infinitesimally small compared to AU/s speeds.
second, from that very link:

Quote:
For the acceleration phase, k is equal to the ship’s maximum warp speed (in AU/s).
For the deceleration phase, k is equal to the ship’s maximum warp speed (in AU/s) divided by 3, but with a maximum value of 2.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2014-08-10 10:33:05 UTC
what kind of monster does this kind of maths, the kind with letters, on a Sunday morning!

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#8 - 2014-08-10 10:38:30 UTC
Nevermind the math but who da frakk cares? Are you starting in freighters racing event or sth?

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Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#9 - 2014-08-10 10:47:23 UTC
Gor Yo wrote:
yeah, I saw it, and the speed formula v = k.e^(k.t) doesnt make sense because v already equals k, which is max warp speed, at time t=0.

I'm finding it kind of hard to disagree with you here seeing as how e^0 is 1.
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-08-10 10:48:05 UTC
i get stuck at 376x48 :D
Gor Yo
Taxes Shmuckses
#11 - 2014-08-10 10:59:12 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Nevermind the math but who da frakk cares? Are you starting in freighters racing event or sth?


well, I do. that is why I made the thread.
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-08-10 11:00:06 UTC
ach ignore them m8, it sunday they prob got hangovers :D making them more grumpy than usual :P
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#13 - 2014-08-10 11:21:06 UTC
Gor Yo wrote:
also, does ship's warp speed affect gate jumping times?

No. A jump is more comparable to going from one website to another. Your internet connection may somehat affect it (and the time to load grid on the other side) but no ship values affect the jumping process. Bad graphics cards such as mine may cause a drop in framerate when jumping or loading grid.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#14 - 2014-08-10 11:26:04 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
Gor Yo wrote:
yeah, I saw it, and the speed formula v = k.e^(k.t) doesnt make sense because v already equals k, which is max warp speed, at time t=0.

I'm finding it kind of hard to disagree with you here seeing as how e^0 is 1.

Except that, time is not 0 when you enter warp as far as I know (I do have a hangover though, my brain is much less focussed than its normal fuzzy state).

Align time and the time to get up to at least 3/4 speed to enter warp affect the initial time value.

So e won't be 1.

But. I'll freely admit thst my memory could be very fuzzy on this. Basic math is simple otherwise.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-08-10 17:19:34 UTC
Derrick Miles wrote:
Gor Yo wrote:
yeah, I saw it, and the speed formula v = k.e^(k.t) doesnt make sense because v already equals k, which is max warp speed, at time t=0.

I'm finding it kind of hard to disagree with you here seeing as how e^0 is 1.

I think it's obvious that Fozzie meant:
x=e^(k.t)-1, thus v=k.(e^(k.t)-1)

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-08-10 18:00:45 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
what kind of monster does this kind of maths, the kind with letters, on a Sunday morning!

dude, it's late afternoon already and I still be all "dafuq is dis ****?" to this thread.

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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-08-10 18:08:09 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
what kind of monster does this kind of maths, the kind with letters, on a Sunday morning!

This is what separates the hard core gamer nerds from the average gamer. I'm not going to hate on them though because they're the ones that make up cool formulas that make everything work.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-08-10 18:10:31 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
what kind of monster does this kind of maths, the kind with letters, on a Sunday morning!

This is what separates the hard core gamer nerds from the average gamer. I'm not going to hate on them though because they're the ones that make up cool formulas that make everything work.

I don't hate the gamer, it's just that maths and I don't go well with each other.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2014-08-10 18:29:58 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
what kind of monster does this kind of maths, the kind with letters, on a Sunday morning!

This is what separates the hard core gamer nerds from the average gamer. I'm not going to hate on them though because they're the ones that make up cool formulas that make everything work.

I don't hate the gamer, it's just that maths and I don't go well with each other.

Then as a dyslexic i must inform you dude, we picked the wroooooooooooong game to fall into.
as IIshira said though, they keep our world (and eve) going so much respect, (and a bit of jealousyBlink)

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-08-10 18:59:33 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
what kind of monster does this kind of maths, the kind with letters, on a Sunday morning!

This is what separates the hard core gamer nerds from the average gamer. I'm not going to hate on them though because they're the ones that make up cool formulas that make everything work.

I don't hate the gamer, it's just that maths and I don't go well with each other.

Then as a dyslexic i must inform you dude, we picked the wroooooooooooong game to fall into.
as IIshira said though, they keep our world (and eve) going so much respect, (and a bit of jealousyBlink)

been here for a bit over 10 years already, so yeah.P

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