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Shelom Severasse
Legion Ascending
Fraternity.
#1 - 2014-08-06 18:43:21 UTC
ill be able to fly amarr HACs in a relatively short amount of time

was wondering if the magnanimous forum community could walk me through whether the zealot or the sac is a better solo ship?

seems like the sac is better since it has better anti frig capabilities (space for a neut and drones), but, it uses missiles, which are gross lol

any input is appreciated (:
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Moira.
#2 - 2014-08-06 19:03:49 UTC
100mn that Sac and go have some fun.

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#3 - 2014-08-06 19:23:26 UTC
If you don't have the Sac to solo, just go be another Zealot following orders.

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JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#4 - 2014-08-06 19:26:08 UTC
A few buddies of mine fit up kite Zealots for dunking frig gangs back in the day. Plenty of people use the Omen Navy Issue for that now.

Truthfully, the Zealot and the Sac' are fine ships whose only downside is being overshadowed in popularity by Ishtars.

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-08-06 20:42:17 UTC
JAF Anders wrote:
A few buddies of mine fit up kite Zealots for dunking frig gangs back in the day. Plenty of people use the Omen Navy Issue for that now.

Truthfully, the Zealot and the Sac' are fine ships whose only downside is being overshadowed in popularity by Ishtars.


Agreed. But to be fair I fought 2 Zealots a few weeks ago with my pve ishtar and forced both off the field with Curators. Didn't have a point so they warped out in hull.

Also, if your looking for solo Sac' fits, look up Feyd's blog. Can tell you from personal experience that his fit works. Lol

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Shelom Severasse
Legion Ascending
Fraternity.
#6 - 2014-08-07 01:02:04 UTC
thanks for the replies brochachos, ill look up that fit and futz with eft some
Jonas Staal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-08-07 13:21:28 UTC
Since the OP is pleased with the answers, and the Title is kind a fitting...

What other HACs are worth soloíng in? I can fly them all, but with minor skills in missiles. Yet I have no clue how to, and which one :)
Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#8 - 2014-08-07 17:41:39 UTC
solo HAC on dscan is every small gang's wet dream, better hope you can do more than "be able to fly" one
Jonas Staal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-08-07 17:59:14 UTC
Before one can perform well, one has to learn.

And before I can start learning, I need to atleast know what ship I'd have to learn to fly xD.

However, any tips are always appriciated!
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#10 - 2014-08-07 18:30:13 UTC
Rapid Light Missile Cerberus is also a dunk factory for a fistful of frigates. You can fit up a Vagabond pretty well for kiting, dragging out a fight into more bite-sized chunks.

Truthfully, there's a lot of work to do for the solo HAC meta. Accept that your opponent will call in all of his buddies when the fight starts. If you're watching a mark for more than a minute, his backup is probably already on its way.

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Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#11 - 2014-08-07 19:03:41 UTC
Neither, get a nomen.

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Monkeys with Guns.
#12 - 2014-08-08 03:26:47 UTC
If you want to go solo cruiser happy fun time, the Navy Omen is the way to go, and its overshadowed the Zealot as a fast kitey laser boat. IF you're determined to take your hac solo in lowsec, I'd go zealot, but you're just begging to die to a boosted frig gang. Once one of those spots you, I suggest you safe up and log for a few.

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Naoru Kozan
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-08-08 06:40:53 UTC
+1 on get a NOMEN. Vexor Navy Issue is really good as well.

As for HACs...the Ishtar is king of the hill at the moment (great ship, but you will struggle to find fights in it).

Due to the dominance of frigates in lowsec and the tendency for them to fit tracking disruptors, kitey turret HACs will struggle in this enviroment.

RLML Cerberus could work well.

Deimos and Sac are both great brawlers (but the Deimos has a fearsome reputation, so if people are willing to engage it usually means a geddon or logi is sitting one jump out).

Munin is garbage. Vaga sort of works as a kiter or flimsy brawler.

Zealot is waaay to slow to kite in the current meta.

The Eagle can sort of work if you go for a massively tanked brawler fit and bait on gates (needs links + crystals etc etc).

Good luck!
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2014-08-08 16:09:25 UTC
navy omen is a terrible one trick pony like slicer. only kills idiots. kind of like RLML anything, I guess.

maybe it's better in null where there are more idiots to feed on.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-08-09 06:45:03 UTC
Plato Forko wrote:
solo HAC on dscan is every small gang's wet dream, better hope you can do more than "be able to fly" one


I can vouch for this everytime I'm in fleet. We practically giggle when we have a solo HAC tackled.Twisted

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Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#16 - 2014-08-09 17:34:38 UTC
Naoru Kozan wrote:
+1 on get a NOMEN. Vexor Navy Issue is really good as well.

As for HACs...the Ishtar is king of the hill at the moment (great ship, but you will struggle to find fights in it).

Due to the dominance of frigates in lowsec and the tendency for them to fit tracking disruptors, kitey turret HACs will struggle in this enviroment.

RLML Cerberus could work well.

Deimos and Sac are both great brawlers (but the Deimos has a fearsome reputation, so if people are willing to engage it usually means a geddon or logi is sitting one jump out).

Munin is garbage. Vaga sort of works as a kiter or flimsy brawler.

Zealot is waaay to slow to kite in the current meta.

The Eagle can sort of work if you go for a massively tanked brawler fit and bait on gates (needs links + crystals etc etc).

Good luck!


Xlasb vaga can tank pretty decent but the DPS sucks.
xpl0de
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-08-10 02:05:50 UTC
The vaga is still a great hac. My personal favorite apart from the Ishtar, which ofcourse rapes atm. You can still get pretty nice dps out of it while having tank quite a bit with lots of gtfo and good range. The sacrilege is excellent too but a little bulky.

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Denuo Secus
#18 - 2014-08-11 08:30:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Denuo Secus
Why so few mentions of the blaster Deimos? It's fast, it's tanky and (most important) able to get rid of faster stuffs - which can hard tackle it - quickly. Just curious...
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#19 - 2014-08-11 13:07:18 UTC
Denuo Secus wrote:
Why so few mentions of the blaster Deimos? It's fast, it's tanky and (most important) able to get rid of faster stuffs - which can hard tackle it - quickly. Just curious...


brawling is too difficult for most people, they prefer idiot-proof kiting ships.
Jonas Staal
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-08-11 13:31:55 UTC
Yet I'm sure theres people with that knowledge around here
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