EVE General Discussion

This is all I do really. I am pulled as well, and happily take off to explore those directions.

I dont like waiting at all. I will fit a cheaper ship and go flying in that rather than wait. Thats why we have different ship tiers. You can have as much fun with each of those ships and you are better off anyway because of the whole "Eve Learning Curve" thing.

You would be surprised how many people are out there waiting for people like us who would like us to be a part of a collective.

I skipped past the parts that where posted since I got off work since its the same old thing but i did reference this thread in the "I like this guys mentality" or whatever thread. Wich if you read that you'll get my point


but....

Like many have said.. its the meta game that you are looking for man. The few of us left in our corp told a major alliance leader to basically GFYS because of some of the same issues. Although for us it was because the alliance was being handled like a monarchy with no regards for its members and once I was made CEO I was the one with the balls to go to the mat for my corp mates. I didnt care that we got into the alliance tourney or the alliance leader "ran" for CSM, I had enough of being crapped on and stood by my friends.

A few of us held to our values that really make the game fun but since we where all old enough that we really should be in null, log ins plummeted. Ive even though about quitting EVE myself because of this but I am holding string with my 3 full paid accounts.

This is a sandbox not a theme park. You cannot compare yourself next to the guys that found this game at launch. (I wish someone told me about EVE back in 2003 myself) You just need to find you niche in this large world. For us its making enough isk to fund our shenanigans with some extra on the side while getting together as a small force and giving a slap to the face to people that think they are immune then regrouping before they can really hurt us then doing it again.

We havn't done that in awhile because of the issues I've talked about but a few of us are holding out hope. We just need new blood. Not just for the numbers, but we need people that still enjoy this game that are not jaded. We are actually hoping to find NEW players that still look at EVE with awe like I do (although Im older) so we can show them that this "you need to be in a nullsec alliance" stuff is a load of crap.

Mind you, this is my forum alt and Im sure you are not reading this but if you where willing, I woulld be happy to tell you everything I know as would a lot of people if you find the right ones. Just remember, you can not treat this game like WOW, you have to treat it like RL to a point. Find what you like and do that.

A collective...

of BLOBBERS, maybe.


That is what you're saying, right? You want to join a blob...

again another BoT member complaining about EvE. seems to be a trend in renter heaven. when PL finally crumbles, and yes its coming. you will have no one to protect you and the cfc will own all your base, get out of drone lands while you can.


ohh yeah can i have your stuff before you quit?

You are never too late. However Eve does require time and effort as an investment. Skills train over time and therefore the more time you invest the more skill points you will get.

Keep your spirits up and try a little longer. If not sorry to see you go.

Thats very very familiar. Happened to me too. If I was ambitious I could even link where and when and likely there would be a pattern.

People who make distinctions about pvp like you do tend to be the e-honor types who thinks 'pvp = fair fight'.

Player v player means one human player did something to another human player. End of story. they fact that you don't like it or didn't consent to it or didn't mean to pvp is irrelevant in the extreme.

It also doesn't matter in the least what your skills were. The who idea of "It wasn't pvp because I couldn't cloak" is so ridiculous it's not even funny. For some reason, some people need to make all these distinctions about pvp to make themselves feel better about the fact that they got out played by someone in a video game.


I had it happen to me years ago as a kid in a video arcade playing this game, a dude told me i didn't real win (despite the fact that I got to continue playing while he had to fish in his pockets for more quarters if he wanted to keep playing). The reason i wasn't really playing? Because i kept using this move (that he din't know how to counter, it seems like for some Street Fighter player, jumping over stuff was hard) rather than walking up to him (where he could hit me) and honorably kung-fuing it out.

He got real mad when I pointed out that he was the one fishing for another quarter, not me. Almost fighting mad. Thought I was gonna have to Hadouken his ass for real for a minute there

And here's why it is PvP in spite of your trying to blame irrelevant factors (the parts in strike-through):

You are a player. The other guy was a player. You were in opposition to each other. This set up a “player vs. player” situation, commonly known as PvP.

You had plenty of time to react. You had all the time before you stuck 500M in a T1. You had all the time before you decided to take this unfortunate combo into one of more pirate-rich pipelines of the game. You had all the time to scout the route, pick a different one, double back if something looked bad, or spread the load across multiple and/or better-suited ships. Oh, and yes, a better fit could very well have saved you too, since Vexors are pretty pathetic as gank boats.

It wasn't the game mechanics that got you killed — it was your long string of very very very very poor decision-making. That, and another player. Your decisions were appalling; his were better; in the PvP between the two of you, he ended up winning. What's more, until you stop trying to shift the blame away from where it belongs — squarely on you — you will fail to learn and keep losing these 100% PvP encounters.


…or wait… you are a player, right? It was you that got killed and not some bot of yours?

Yea, I would say that you pretty much nailed it.

In the beginning, you should go through the profession agents and figure out what you want to do (this is actually a luxury, I started without that hand holding stuff). After you've figured it out, skill for it, and done.

There's a role for everyone

...but I sort of was concentrated on one thing, and after I figured out what I was doing/got bored I cross trained into about everything so I can be more multi-purpose...but I guess that is also a role. Jack of all trades and a master of none

I don't have a link to hand but look at some of the goonfleet videos, every ship matters, you in your small scale ship with low tier mods could make the tackle that takes down a 10bil ship.. every ship matters, I say this having played for over 10 years, iv been bested by several newbs doing their best and overwhelming me, don't get disheartened just find some good dudes to fly with and have a blast.