EVE General Discussion

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on a lot of what you said OP. It is true, those of us who started later will never catch up with the guys who have been playing since the early days, however that doesn't really matter. You don't have to have a bazillion skill points in this game to matter.

I started off with this character in high sec like everyone else. I wanted to try exploration instead of grinding the same level IV missions in a battleship. The ISK was rubbish, found it boring and thought about giving up again.

Then I moved to null sec, joined Brave Newbies and can't imagine doing anything else. I've never had so much fun in EVE before. Even though I couldn't fly anything more than a tech one frigate I was flying with a fleet supporting capital ships bashing POS's and I-Hubs scouting ahead and pointing targets so they couldn't get away. Best of all, I didn't even need to bring my own ship. Brave gave me a stack of Atrons to blow up and even better HAVING FUN while doing it.

Now I'm flying an Astero scanning down sites and earning a small fortune doing it. 25million ISK per can? Sometimes 200mil a site? If you're finding that you don't like empire space, move into low or null. Or, if you really want to make you're own space away from the big alliances why don't you make a living in wormholes? They can be quite lucrative and offer a challenge you can't find anywhere else.

If you want power, you don't necessarily have to look at controlling nullsec.

Your goal could be to terrorize a lowsec area of your choosing, for example.
Won't be easy/possible by your own either, I suppose, but it'd be a longterm goal. Get comrades, join a pirate corp or something, gain experience, learn the ropes, take initiative and practise to lead fleets, you can make a name for yourself and that's power already.
With your friends and comrades you can start to "your" home system, you can defend "your turf" when others dare to do stuff there. Maybe the corp you joined before already did that anyway and you "just" have to rise in the ranks and distinguish yourself as someone to get things done.
That'd be effort, of course. But gaining power always is.

Or look at how CODE came to be (as far as I know, just telling what I gathered from some forums posts, so I may be wrong). They weren't -that- early in the game either. Some guy had the silly idea of claiming to own highsec systems, of miners having to do his bidding. He harassed them if they didn't, he gathered people who followed him.
Now people talk about them, they're big at least when it comes to publicity, even if they are controversial. Also a sort of power.
All it took was an idea and the will and persistence and ability to take it further.

Power doesn't need to mean you control everything. That's more or less impossible in this game. But you can find a niche you can matter in.
But to get power, you need to take it yourself. Find your way.

What your saying is exactly where I am 2years into eve. Most people will say "start a corp and play eve the way you want". The reality of eve is that such a small precentile of players are willing to play eve in a truly unique and inovative way that some one like my self is mocked for taking a diffrent aproach to eve. On top of that gathering people to log in and put in some work is near impossible.

This is so true. "If you're way of playing is different from the mostly unfounded word-of-mouth meta or different from some 10 year veteran's way of playing, then you're a ****** and should uninstall". It's that kind of attitude that makes me wonder how many EVE players even have the mental capacitor (Slit my Wrists!XD) to think they are so high and mighty.

Very True, can you name another alliance that has emerged over the last few years that has an influence in null sec but is not made up of old alliances?

Words of the weak minded who will never be anything but cogs in the machine and/or whiners.

good point, op needs to make some friends (don't take that the wrong way, the community is what eve "is" come join us)

(I don't think he's coming back guys)

I'm really not feeling the love. :(

Nobody loves me, I have no friends, and I live in a van down by the river.

When I do approach the game from a fun first perspective I usually just fit some ships, rush into faction warfare sites or some other places and look for things to shoot without any real other goal. Though again, that death mechanic is a tad frustrating to deal with, but anyway a part of the game.

I play games as an escape, not as a way to really compete or show off achievements. Everyone has their own motivations of course when playing EVE or any other game, and people come and go as well. I just don't see the point to continue playing at this time, or rather paying to play.

Glad you all love the game and have found something(s) about it you truly enjoy.