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Eve Production Manager - Market Research Tridux Edition 1.30 Deployed

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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#41 - 2015-12-06 20:44:32 UTC
Oh, I'm using Safari right now for it. That much seems not to be a problem. Haven't tried the IGB yet.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#42 - 2015-12-07 05:13:09 UTC
Alicia Dnari wrote:
Oh, I'm using Safari right now for it. That much seems not to be a problem. Haven't tried the IGB yet.


EPM tracks every cost that eats into your margin: freight, factory, broker, etc. Go into the Market Research Report, click on Show All, and if all of your ammo shows at a loss, I would put money on it being a loss proposition. I drilled into the Scourge Heavy Missile in Amarr to sanity check, and it's selling after direct costs at about 1.6% before taking into account factory and freight costs which would put it solidly into the red. For years on end, ammo as a profit maker has been consistently bad advice unfortunately. Do some grinding to pick up about a bil in capital, pick up a large purger, and you will see much better results than you're seeing available to you now.

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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#43 - 2015-12-08 03:38:19 UTC
Large Purger=Large Core Defense Field Purger I?

I can get a billion. I need that much?

Should I try for a ship, too? Omen, say?
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#44 - 2015-12-25 11:48:18 UTC
It doesn't seem to work anymore, tried setting up a account, and the only thing I'm able to do is set up my API and go to the configuration screen (in which I can't enter the system I'm buying/selling and producing in. The dashboard just keeps showing the loading wheel and all other links give this error (with a lot more stuff below it):

An unhandled exception occurred while processing the request.

InvalidOperationException: Sequence contains no elements
System.Linq.Enumerable.Single[TSource](IEnumerable`1 source)

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#45 - 2015-12-28 16:52:26 UTC
handige harrie wrote:
It doesn't seem to work anymore, tried setting up a account, and the only thing I'm able to do is set up my API and go to the configuration screen (in which I can't enter the system I'm buying/selling and producing in. The dashboard just keeps showing the loading wheel and all other links give this error (with a lot more stuff below it):

An unhandled exception occurred while processing the request.

InvalidOperationException: Sequence contains no elements
System.Linq.Enumerable.Single[TSource](IEnumerable`1 source)


Yeah, thought I'd give it a whirl over the holiday weekend. Does indeed appear to be quite busted.

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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#46 - 2015-12-29 03:50:46 UTC
It was working for me, or seemed to be, a couple days ago when I read handige's msg, but it's down hard now. Something about the proxy server not talking to the real server.
Vegitt Skipsham
White Moon Aeronautics
#47 - 2015-12-30 16:34:52 UTC
Ive been trying to set this up today but when I go to set my minimum build quantities I do not have a Item Maintenance -- Buildable option from the Production menu. Am I doing something wrong?
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#48 - 2015-12-30 18:08:18 UTC
Vegitt Skipsham wrote:
Ive been trying to set this up today but when I go to set my minimum build quantities I do not have a Item Maintenance -- Buildable option from the Production menu. Am I doing something wrong?


From what I've seen of it (which isn't much as so far it has been flakey as hell), that seems to be incorporated into "Build Items" now.

It seems like maybe EPM has some caching issues, as so far, any changes I've made in build items are roundly ignored until I log out and back in. Same for configuration.

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Vegitt Skipsham
White Moon Aeronautics
#49 - 2015-12-30 19:14:00 UTC
I looked at that, but nothing appears when I click the build items tab.

Tried logging out with no luck.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#50 - 2015-12-30 19:28:16 UTC
Vegitt Skipsham wrote:
I looked at that, but nothing appears when I click the build items tab.

Tried logging out with no luck.


Yeah, it's a bit wonky. Make sure your BPs are in your factory station, make sure the API sees your BPs, and click the little checkbox. Should get a list of your BPs, then you can set quantities, then you'll probably need to log out and back in before they actually show in your build queue.

The whole thing seems finnicky as hell so far.

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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#51 - 2015-12-31 00:45:40 UTC
S.J.,

Just read your recent page update on "EPM and the new producer", where you recommend starting with "the best small control tower, the best capital rig, and maybe the best bomb". I was surprised to see the control tower there. Yeah, it's at the top of the research report, along with a bunch of other POS stuff, but I thought POSes are going away, so I'm surprised there's still a market for 'em. But okay, I'll give it a shot.

In your introductory video, which I also just reviewed, you mention an "uploader" early in the process. You're in the market, looking at the details for your sell items, and clicking the export link. You said something to the effect that your uploader watches for these. Is this still a thing, what with Crest, and if so where do I get this uploader, and is there a Mac version?

One thing I'm doing is buying BPOs for stuff I want to try to build, and then researching them. Which means they're not available for production. I guess I should buy BPCs for that until I can produce my own. Is that how you do it, or do you just buy BPCs and not worry about BPOs?
Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#52 - 2015-12-31 14:33:00 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Vegitt Skipsham wrote:
I looked at that, but nothing appears when I click the build items tab.

Tried logging out with no luck.


Yeah, it's a bit wonky. Make sure your BPs are in your factory station, make sure the API sees your BPs, and click the little checkbox. Should get a list of your BPs, then you can set quantities, then you'll probably need to log out and back in before they actually show in your build queue.

The whole thing seems finnicky as hell so far.


Not sure how this is supposed to work. All my BPs are in my factory station, and the api sees them. So I go to "build items" and the list is empty. Click the "show all" box, and my BPs (that aren't in research) show up. But the only thing I can change on that list is batch size — the "quantity" column is not editable. Is this a bug, or am I missing something?

My current list of BPs is frigates (all of them, I think), mining crystals, scanner probes, hybrid ammo, projectile ammo, and a couple of missiles. About half the list is red, with negative profit margins and markups. Build them and lose money, I get that. But a couple of the red ones have positive, though small, profit factors. I don't get that. Can I make a small profit building those items?

The ones that aren't in red should be profitable, although the profit factor is small. Under 1,000,000 for most items, under 100,000 for about half, though mining crystals seem to have good margins and two of those have profit factors over 1,000,000. Best is Crokite at 3 million plus.

Should I trust EPM and build the top ten items on this list, at least until i get some better BPs off the Market Research list?

But my real concern is understanding this "quantity" thing. If I should be able to edit it, why can't I?

BTW, last night I waited 20 minutes for "refresh api" to finish. It didn't, so I went to bed. It was finished when I got up this morning, though. Not sure why the slow-down.

One other thing: the last three items on this list are Victorieux Luxury Yacht, Thalia (new T2 frigate — I made the BP as an experiment), and Council Diplomatic Shuttle. On these, the profit factor is blank. Not enough information to compute it? Do I need to change something somewhere?
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#53 - 2015-12-31 17:42:34 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Alicia Dnari wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Vegitt Skipsham wrote:
I looked at that, but nothing appears when I click the build items tab.

Tried logging out with no luck.


Yeah, it's a bit wonky. Make sure your BPs are in your factory station, make sure the API sees your BPs, and click the little checkbox. Should get a list of your BPs, then you can set quantities, then you'll probably need to log out and back in before they actually show in your build queue.

The whole thing seems finnicky as hell so far.


Not sure how this is supposed to work. All my BPs are in my factory station, and the api sees them. So I go to "build items" and the list is empty. Click the "show all" box, and my BPs (that aren't in research) show up. But the only thing I can change on that list is batch size — the "quantity" column is not editable. Is this a bug, or am I missing something?


Batch size is what I meant. Calm down. :P

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Should I trust EPM and build the top ten items on this list, at least until i get some better BPs off the Market Research list?


:shrug: I haven't been able to get it to behave long enough to really play with it. The market research report generally seems solid, though I wish you could drill down to the underlying data simply for the sake of verification. You will definitely want to combine what it tells you with general game knowledge, though. For instance...

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One other thing: the last three items on this list are Victorieux Luxury Yacht, Thalia (new T2 frigate — I made the BP as an experiment), and Council Diplomatic Shuttle. On these, the profit factor is blank. Not enough information to compute it? Do I need to change something somewhere?


...the yacht and shuttle aren't really viable candidates anyway - they are limited edition.

But seriously, from what I can tell the whole thing is totally ****** right now and SJ seems to be MIA, so I'd wait until he comes back and says something about it being unfucked.

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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#54 - 2016-01-01 15:05:31 UTC
Error 503: Service not available. :-(

I'll try again in a bit.
Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#55 - 2016-01-02 00:46:53 UTC
Still unavailable.
Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#56 - 2016-01-03 20:37:07 UTC
Working again! :-)
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#57 - 2016-01-03 21:20:47 UTC
Hey man it was Christmas you know. Hope you spent some time with your family like I did. Announcement to follow.

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Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#58 - 2016-01-04 04:57:34 UTC
I wasn't complaining, just reporting. And I figured you were spending time with your family. :-)
CDK Ramesses
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#59 - 2016-01-14 15:34:13 UTC
Hello SJ Astralana, EPM appears to be down. Do you know what's happening? or can you provide a working link.

Thank you
GoodKenny
Knight Odds
Free Range Chikuns
#60 - 2016-01-14 23:21:03 UTC
CDK Ramesses wrote:
Hello SJ Astralana, EPM appears to be down. Do you know what's happening? or can you provide a working link.

Thank you


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=463102&find=unread

It runs fine for me at the normal link.