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Holy hell, the Tornado is a gankers dream.

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Endeavour Starfleet
#61 - 2011-11-21 20:51:13 UTC
Have at it. If you want to go gank left and right. Just don't cry when CCP massively improves structure HP on mining craft or buff concord to hell and back (With some sort of first shot always misses in hisec or something)
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#62 - 2011-11-21 20:58:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Metal Icarus
Make the tier 3 bc's only flyable in low and nullsec. No reason for them to be in highsec anyways. Look at stealth bombers, they have bombs illegal in highsec for a reason. If one tornado can destroy 2 hulks before concords shows up, it is too powerfull to be in griefers hands. (Like a .22 cal mini pistol in a 5 year olds hands)

Its a purpose built ship that should only be used by responsible adults in null/low who will actually use it for its intended purpose.

Just like bombs.

That will make everybody happy... well everyone that matters...
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#63 - 2011-11-21 21:09:56 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Make the tier 3 bc's only flyable in low and nullsec. No reason for them to be in highsec anyways. Look at stealth bombers, they have bombs illegal in highsec for a reason. If one tornado can destroy 2 hulks before concords shows up, it is too powerfull to be in griefers hands. (Like a .22 cal mini pistol in a 5 year olds hands)

Its a purpose built ship that should only be used by responsible adults in null/low who will actually use it for its intended purpose.

Just like bombs.

That will make everybody happy... well everyone that matters...


You're new to these parts, aren't you?! P

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#64 - 2011-11-21 21:21:33 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Make the tier 3 bc's only flyable in low and nullsec. No reason for them to be in highsec anyways. Look at stealth bombers, they have bombs illegal in highsec for a reason. If one tornado can destroy 2 hulks before concords shows up, it is too powerfull to be in griefers hands. (Like a .22 cal mini pistol in a 5 year olds hands)

Its a purpose built ship that should only be used by responsible adults in null/low who will actually use it for its intended purpose.

Just like bombs.

That will make everybody happy... well everyone that matters...


You're new to these parts, aren't you?! P



Yeah, when it comes to highsec i think I have spent a grand total of a about a month of my eve career in highsec. So when it comes to carebears getting ganked I know nothing about it. I am used to people actually having scouts and people having backup in the next system waiting for you to agress.

So yeah, I'm new to highsec, what of it? The precedent has been set with bombs, why not illegalize T3 BC's in highsec?

or could it be... if this would happen.... you would be.....

MAD?
Spider Fiona
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2011-11-21 21:22:19 UTC
HOly yeah, lets bring EVE down fasterTwisted
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#66 - 2011-11-21 21:26:30 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Make the tier 3 bc's only flyable in low and nullsec. No reason for them to be in highsec anyways. Look at stealth bombers, they have bombs illegal in highsec for a reason. If one tornado can destroy 2 hulks before concords shows up, it is too powerfull to be in griefers hands. (Like a .22 cal mini pistol in a 5 year olds hands)

Its a purpose built ship that should only be used by responsible adults in null/low who will actually use it for its intended purpose.

Just like bombs.

That will make everybody happy... well everyone that matters...


You're new to these parts, aren't you?! P



Yeah, when it comes to highsec i think I have spent a grand total of a about a month of my eve career in highsec. So when it comes to carebears getting ganked I know nothing about it. I am used to people actually having scouts and people having backup in the next system waiting for you to agress.

So yeah, I'm new to highsec, what of it? The precedent has been set with bombs, why not illegalize T3 BC's in highsec?

or could it be... if this would happen.... you would be.....

MAD?


Bombs are area of effect weapons capable of harming far more than a single ship or two per attack, this would be the difference.

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Jita Alt666
#67 - 2011-11-21 21:26:34 UTC
This thread cracks me up. As a guy who has run hulks in empire (and understands the stupidity of the mining time vs isk ratio in Eve Online) I have no sympathy to any one who dies to suicide ganker who is willing to lose 50mil himself to cause you to lose 200mil.
Boris Ginnungagap
Doomheim
#68 - 2011-11-21 21:27:09 UTC
Grow some balls.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#69 - 2011-11-21 21:27:33 UTC
/Me giggles uncontrollably....

URP-SPLOSION!!!

Ni.
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
#70 - 2011-11-21 21:33:12 UTC
Luh Windan wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:


Was CCP just trolling the suicide-whiners by giving them the insurance nerf, while simultaneously releasing this little beast?


not so much trolling as adding a bit of class to the proceedings

Yes I can also live with this. Finally it makes a bit more sense.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#71 - 2011-11-21 21:33:34 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Make the tier 3 bc's only flyable in low and nullsec. No reason for them to be in highsec anyways. Look at stealth bombers, they have bombs illegal in highsec for a reason. If one tornado can destroy 2 hulks before concords shows up, it is too powerfull to be in griefers hands. (Like a .22 cal mini pistol in a 5 year olds hands)

Its a purpose built ship that should only be used by responsible adults in null/low who will actually use it for its intended purpose.

Just like bombs.

That will make everybody happy... well everyone that matters...


You're new to these parts, aren't you?! P



Yeah, when it comes to highsec i think I have spent a grand total of a about a month of my eve career in highsec. So when it comes to carebears getting ganked I know nothing about it. I am used to people actually having scouts and people having backup in the next system waiting for you to agress.

So yeah, I'm new to highsec, what of it? The precedent has been set with bombs, why not illegalize T3 BC's in highsec?

or could it be... if this would happen.... you would be.....

MAD?


Bombs are area of effect weapons capable of harming far more than a single ship or two per attack, this would be the difference.


That is true, but still. When I first learned about these tier 3 bc's i first thought of how null sov combat will change. With the super cap. nerf coming up along with these ships, it will even the game up a lot in regards to supercaps against sub caps. I guess to me, these ships do not mean so much of ganking, rather the liberation of null from the Red's.

So, pardon me for being willingly ignorant but these tools of destruction exist for a reason and when people use them to create pain for people who cannot fight back, I get a bad taste in my mouth. I have no sympathy for the victim, but I do have malcontent for those who grief.
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#72 - 2011-11-21 21:36:27 UTC
So who cares? Don't haul a lot of money in one trip - they won't gank you...

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#73 - 2011-11-21 21:39:16 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Make the tier 3 bc's only flyable in low and nullsec. No reason for them to be in highsec anyways. Look at stealth bombers, they have bombs illegal in highsec for a reason. If one tornado can destroy 2 hulks before concords shows up, it is too powerfull to be in griefers hands. (Like a .22 cal mini pistol in a 5 year olds hands)

Its a purpose built ship that should only be used by responsible adults in null/low who will actually use it for its intended purpose.

Just like bombs.

That will make everybody happy... well everyone that matters...


You're new to these parts, aren't you?! P



Yeah, when it comes to highsec i think I have spent a grand total of a about a month of my eve career in highsec. So when it comes to carebears getting ganked I know nothing about it. I am used to people actually having scouts and people having backup in the next system waiting for you to agress.

So yeah, I'm new to highsec, what of it? The precedent has been set with bombs, why not illegalize T3 BC's in highsec?

or could it be... if this would happen.... you would be.....

MAD?


Bombs are area of effect weapons capable of harming far more than a single ship or two per attack, this would be the difference.


Well to be just i think the op mentioned something something about a tornado being able to down two hulks per hull something.. so i think that's the similarity.


Nah..

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
#74 - 2011-11-21 21:39:36 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
When I first learned about these tier 3 bc's i first thought of how null sov combat will change. With the super cap. nerf coming up along with these ships, it will even the game up a lot in regards to supercaps against sub caps. I guess to me, these ships do not mean so much of ganking, rather the liberation of null from the Red's.

So, pardon me for being willingly ignorant but these tools of destruction exist for a reason and when people use them to create pain for people who cannot fight back, I get a bad taste in my mouth. I have no sympathy for the victim, but I do have malcontent for those who grief.

True, a Naga with Citadel Torpedoes would at least stir up the nullsec dust a little. These tier 3 BSs are yet another variation of what we already have a lot of, nothing spectacular.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#75 - 2011-11-21 21:44:28 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
Make the tier 3 bc's only flyable in low and nullsec. No reason for them to be in highsec anyways. Look at stealth bombers, they have bombs illegal in highsec for a reason. If one tornado can destroy 2 hulks before concords shows up, it is too powerfull to be in griefers hands. (Like a .22 cal mini pistol in a 5 year olds hands)

Its a purpose built ship that should only be used by responsible adults in null/low who will actually use it for its intended purpose.

Just like bombs.

That will make everybody happy... well everyone that matters...


You're new to these parts, aren't you?! P



Yeah, when it comes to highsec i think I have spent a grand total of a about a month of my eve career in highsec. So when it comes to carebears getting ganked I know nothing about it. I am used to people actually having scouts and people having backup in the next system waiting for you to agress.

So yeah, I'm new to highsec, what of it? The precedent has been set with bombs, why not illegalize T3 BC's in highsec?

or could it be... if this would happen.... you would be.....

MAD?


Bombs are area of effect weapons capable of harming far more than a single ship or two per attack, this would be the difference.


That is true, but still. When I first learned about these tier 3 bc's i first thought of how null sov combat will change. With the super cap. nerf coming up along with these ships, it will even the game up a lot in regards to supercaps against sub caps. I guess to me, these ships do not mean so much of ganking, rather the liberation of null from the Red's.

So, pardon me for being willingly ignorant but these tools of destruction exist for a reason and when people use them to create pain for people who cannot fight back, I get a bad taste in my mouth. I have no sympathy for the victim, but I do have malcontent for those who grief.



If you lose a ship in null, its because you weren't paying attention to intel (or were deliberately risking your ship... or flying something suicidal, like ECM or an interdictor). Its exactly the same thing in hisec. If you pay any attention, you'll notice when that one person who doesn't appear to be part of an industrial corp shows up in local with a poor sec status.
Also, as a rule I don't bank people if they respond to me in local. If you don't respond in local, you're probably a bot. I'm sure there are plenty of people who only bank what they think are bots.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#76 - 2011-11-21 21:45:26 UTC
Jennifer Starling wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
When I first learned about these tier 3 bc's i first thought of how null sov combat will change. With the super cap. nerf coming up along with these ships, it will even the game up a lot in regards to supercaps against sub caps. I guess to me, these ships do not mean so much of ganking, rather the liberation of null from the Red's.

So, pardon me for being willingly ignorant but these tools of destruction exist for a reason and when people use them to create pain for people who cannot fight back, I get a bad taste in my mouth. I have no sympathy for the victim, but I do have malcontent for those who grief.

True, a Naga with Citadel Torpedoes would at least stir up the nullsec dust a little. These tier 3 BSs are yet another variation of what we already have a lot of, nothing spectacular.
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Under no circumstances did CCP even mention putting capital weapons on a battlecruiser. Torpedoes, not Citadel Torpedoes.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#77 - 2011-11-21 21:49:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Metal Icarus
Zions Child wrote:

Under no circumstances did CCP even mention putting capital weapons on a battlecruiser. Torpedoes, not Citadel Torpedoes.


But wouldnt it be great!
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
#78 - 2011-11-21 21:50:08 UTC
Zions Child wrote:
Jennifer Starling wrote:
a Naga with Citadel Torpedoes would at least stir up the nullsec dust a little. These tier 3 BSs are yet another variation of what we already have a lot of, nothing spectacular.

Under no circumstances did CCP even mention putting capital weapons on a battlecruiser. Torpedoes, not Citadel Torpedoes.

I never said they did, it would have been fun though. And a bit more exciting.P
NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2011-11-21 21:53:38 UTC
Nov 29 - Do not fly your hauler/barge/orca/freighter day- j/k!

I can already hear the rush of traders trying to fill orders.
This should be interesting.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#80 - 2011-11-21 22:07:04 UTC
dust put a damage control 2 and some tank mods on your hulks. more than likely you will survive.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.