These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Test Server Feedback

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

[Hyperion] A new way to share overview settings

First post First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
MuraSaki Siki
ChuangShi
Fraternity.
#61 - 2014-08-01 00:33:44 UTC
and the next questions

i know the 'restore the previous setting' function is not a must function.
however, for new player experience, the overview setting is an advance setting.
it is not easy to customize without external teaching video or website.

there are full of carelessness and mistakes for new comers.
are there any measures to help them not to fxxk up their settings?
MuraSaki Siki
ChuangShi
Fraternity.
#62 - 2014-08-01 00:53:30 UTC
one more thing

when cursor hover the setting links, there is a tooltip 'overviewPreset : XDasd!@#123123"
something like that

would it be change to the character name who create this link? or change to other meaningful tooltip message?
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#63 - 2014-08-01 01:26:14 UTC
740 MB patch wonder what the rest of the changes areSmile

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#64 - 2014-08-01 02:30:47 UTC
Salpun wrote:
I'll check this out on the test server later but on the list of overview bugs that this does or does not fix.

Do these changes fix:

Pulling up the overview using a short cut allowed a person to change the settings but not save them. Will this fix clean up that issue.

While changing the whole overview is nice. This functionality misses out on the ability to add tab specific overview layouts as a reward for doing steps in the NPE.

Does this change clean up the tabs and generic layout conflicts in the settings tab? IE generic layouts do not populate the drop downs in the window until they are used in a saved layout.


After some testing:

Overview settings cannot be saved while in stationStraight

Having tabs be creatable in the main overview cleans up that issue and while it is click bait if you dont have 5 loaded who does not run with at least 5 tabs lol

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#65 - 2014-08-01 03:02:19 UTC
Randy en Viliana wrote:
I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.


new way to awox?

link a "borked" overview settings guised as a juicy killmail right before the bad guys are going to jump into system.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Zomgnomnom
Contra Ratio
GameTheory
#66 - 2014-08-01 03:22:24 UTC
And there was much rejoicing!
Alice Ianni
Shadow State
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2014-08-01 03:23:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Alice Ianni
Give us a checkbox in the overview settings ( that is checked by default ) that says "Lock overview setting" or something like that. As long as you have that box checked, it's impossible to change the overview settings by clicking a link.

So, if you want to change your settings, you have to first "Unlock" the overview, click the link, and then confirm again on the Yes/No popup.

People who know what they are doing and want to have multiple overview profiles can just untick the checkbox and switch if they feel like it.

Newbros and people who don't want to have to deal with people spamming overview setting in Local won't have to worry about it as long as the box is checked.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#68 - 2014-08-01 03:57:33 UTC
Can we get the column width and window width to change so switching between something like travel and pvp with velocity overview is possible?

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#69 - 2014-08-01 08:15:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
You seriously need to add an optional popup for when clicking certain links, not just this.

"This is an overview profile, do you want to open and overwrite your own?"
"This is a channel invite link, do you want to proceed?"

And for the love of ccp, please finally add channel invite popups to display it is a channel invite as well.

/c

★★★ Secure 3rd party service ★★★

Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Twitter @ChribbaVeldspar
Sales Alt negrodamus
Sanctuary of Shadows
#70 - 2014-08-01 08:29:36 UTC
Interesting. That'll help unfuck overviews for folks.

Though I'm wondering....would the same method of overview sharing work for bookmarks? Because sharing bookmarks.....would be nice.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#71 - 2014-08-01 09:01:27 UTC
So many people who don't read the devposts:

Clicking the link doesn't auto apply the settings. It brings up a warning box you can't tell not to come up, that makes you confirm that you want it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4863625#post4863625


If you don't want to dig for devposts, just go to the first one (see that handy jump to first devpost link at the top?) then click the blue bar on the portrait to go to the next. lather, rinse, repeat.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Wilhelm Ormand
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2014-08-01 10:08:55 UTC
Great stuff!

Now the overview is on the operating table, would it be possible to implement detachable overview tabs? So you could have two or more of them open at the same time. For example one with hostiles and one with friendlies, drones, or just celestials. If this would give to much lag, limit it to two or three.
CCP Turtlepower
C C P
C C P Alliance
#73 - 2014-08-01 15:29:54 UTC
Thanks for all the feedback! We will definitely consider all your great suggestions before we release this feature later this month.
Hope you all have a nice weekend Cool
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#74 - 2014-08-01 17:41:19 UTC
Re-Add moons to be viewable as brackets please.

Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#75 - 2014-08-01 18:59:39 UTC
i thought a little bit about all this. I don't know how its implemented of course but i guess its very similar how killmail links work. The whole information is stored on the server all the time and loaded on demand if you click the link - having the link is like having the killmail. If its really the case CCP could easily implement a history of old overview settings (think: browser history) where the last 10 links are stored on the client.

So you not only have a backup, you have several backups and you can even switch between them any time you want. But again i am only guessing here. (it could be also peer2peer and i am totally wrong)

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#76 - 2014-08-01 19:45:16 UTC
Love it guys, it's a good step in a good direction.

You guys should let us add angular velocity and velocity to ship labels, just like it has distance/alliance/name ect...

♞
Draconus Lofwyr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2014-08-01 20:26:41 UTC
can this serve as an opportunity to do some major overview overhaul? some time ago on the test server, they had a short few weeks of different icons on the overview for ship types that gave a better indication of ship type, including different icons for capitals and super capitals as well as industrial ships. they were a lot easier to see and identify size at a glance. since then, no further sight has been sen of them or any indication of changes. Can these be re-evaluated and tested for usability?

If not, can a dev give a quick rundown on the problems that were encountered?
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2014-08-01 22:45:34 UTC
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

All the exotic dancers and spirits to you!
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#79 - 2014-08-02 05:55:00 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
So many people who don't read the devposts:

Clicking the link doesn't auto apply the settings. It brings up a warning box you can't tell not to come up, that makes you confirm that you want it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4863625#post4863625


I assume that, unless you can preview it, you're simply faced with a yes / no option. That you can say you want this overview, but don't actually know what it is for sure until you apply it a-la gift.exe
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#80 - 2014-08-02 07:24:20 UTC
Just the idea of the way these links work get my hackles to rise that is the forced label part.

I have a better solution then letting total stranger spamming you with their "best ov ewah" links.

1. only accept ov-links from the blue list (+10)
2. UI in a way of the fitting window currently works except the import/export which still after 5(?) years doesn't work consistently and fights against windows file system at every opportunity.
3. add a setting "ignore ov-setting links" for us who want nothing do with "helpful strangers" spamming links to us in eg. newbie chat.

4. i can already imagine starting a high sec gank by sending a "helpful ov-link" (to chosen target) that has conveniently certain ship types missing from both brackets and ov ... Pirate
Even easier then "can I mine in my suicide gank ship right next to you" -scams or "can I transport your ship for you" - shenanigans.