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[Hyperion] A new way to share overview settings

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Pacanes Omega
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-07-31 19:05:57 UTC
Man the fun this is going to cause in big fleet battles with silly amounts of TiDi. Local is already spammed like crazy with BS links to slow down people's computers and cause crashes I can only imagine the added bonus of having to click to dismiss a change every 30 seconds (20 mins in TiDi time) that's not going to cause any issues.

I personally have local closed but there's a lot of folks who madly click everything posted because they have to be "that guy" I await the exploits and issues to come.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#42 - 2014-07-31 19:23:04 UTC
Does this mean that overview states will finally be made useful?

Example: Show only war targets.
Saraki Ishikela
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-07-31 19:39:55 UTC
As someone who just had to help 5 friends on trial accounts learn how to set up their overview settings (even after mailing them my own) I can definitely relate to and appreciate the implications of this project. Great quality of life improvement!

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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#44 - 2014-07-31 19:48:40 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Does this mean that overview states will finally be made useful?

Example: Show only war targets.
The states are not changing (the presentation of them is, so it's more obvious that you are picking what to filter out).

When starting this, I thought we had to completely change the states, so you would pick what you wanted in your overview (example: war targets) rather than what you didn't want.
When looking better into it, we quickly ran into this case
- I want -5 dudes in my overview so I check them -> my corp mates that are -5 now all show in the overview, not what I want

So (at least for now) it's the same as before, sorry if that's not ideal for you What?

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#45 - 2014-07-31 19:50:54 UTC
what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#46 - 2014-07-31 19:55:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Gospadin
removed: already asked 15 times already
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#47 - 2014-07-31 19:55:08 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc.
All... priorities, colors, blinking settings, groups, states, columns, pre/postfixes on ships, tab setup, tab presets used in the overview and other settings... should be all settings in the overview settings window.

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#48 - 2014-07-31 19:57:12 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc.


It needs to be overview settings (what shows up), color coding, and prioritization/enabling of classes of targets.

Just dragging what shows up, without the colors/prioritization embedded, leaves us exactly where we are today with downloaded overview packs that still requires us to "un-eff" our overview on each update/installation.
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#49 - 2014-07-31 19:57:38 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc.
All... priorities, colors, blinking settings, groups, states, columns, pre/postfixes on ships, tab setup, tab presets used in the overview and other settings... should be all settings in the overview settings window.


\o/
Alundil
Rolled Out
#50 - 2014-07-31 19:57:56 UTC
Randy en Viliana wrote:
I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.

This was my first thought as well.

There needs to be some confirmation that the link is, indeed, an overview setting and/or a required acceptance of "Yes please overwrite" my settings with this one.

I'm right behind you
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#51 - 2014-07-31 20:04:10 UTC
Locke DieDrake wrote:
I don't post here much, but this brought me out of lurking...

Hey CCP, you have a perfectly cromulent system for how to share overviews already in game. MAKE IT EXACTLY LIKE THE SHARED FITS system. PRESTO, it's super simple to use, you already know how to code it, and everyone gets the features they wanted from it.

IE: instead of overwriting whatever your current overview is (seriously, this was your idea?), it opens the overview settings window and shows the new overviews' settings. (just like a fit) and then lets you name and save it to your list of overviews (just like fits).

PLEASE!!!!!!


I really like this idea. +1
Masao Kurata
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2014-07-31 20:05:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Masao Kurata
CCP karkur wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Does this mean that overview states will finally be made useful?

Example: Show only war targets.
The states are not changing (the presentation of them is, so it's more obvious that you are picking what to filter out).

When starting this, I thought we had to completely change the states, so you would pick what you wanted in your overview (example: war targets) rather than what you didn't want.
When looking better into it, we quickly ran into this case
- I want -5 dudes in my overview so I check them -> my corp mates that are -5 now all show in the overview, not what I want

So (at least for now) it's the same as before, sorry if that's not ideal for you What?


Just use a tristate: filter/exclude/ignore.

EDIT: Uh, maybe that wording's unclear. By "filter" I mean "anything without this state is excluded", by exclude I mean "anything with this state is excluded" and by ignore I mean "this state does not affect whether the entity appears on your overview".

For the UI, you can have tick, cross and empty box or circle, cross and empty.
Jinn Aideron
#53 - 2014-07-31 22:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jinn Aideron
Very, very cool! Big smile

Instead of a unisized overview, we can finally have specialized, and easily switch between them. Yay! \o/


Would something similar be at all possible for sets of window positions and sizes? It has the same one-size-to-fit-all-activities malady. (Trading setup, salvaging setup, industry setup, ...)



Btw, the '+'-Tab is at the moment very "conveniently" placed for misclicking, and evoking an in-your-face dialog box at the worst possible moment.

Stealth deletes are bad.
Abulurd Boniface
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-07-31 23:27:11 UTC
Randy en Viliana wrote:
I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.


That's why one of the first things you'll do is send yourself an EVE mail with your own settings, in case you should ever fall for a stunt like that.

You can even paste it in one of the notes. Instant View-heal.

No need to thank me.
Sun Jun-Chi
Confederation of Independent Contractors
#55 - 2014-07-31 23:36:07 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Bienator II wrote:
what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc.
All... priorities, colors, blinking settings, groups, states, columns, pre/postfixes on ships, tab setup, tab presets used in the overview and other settings... should be all settings in the overview settings window.


Would it also be possible to have the window arrangement saved in the preset, so that I don't need to move every single window into the right position whenever logging onto an alt?
Ariete
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-07-31 23:36:42 UTC
At last a decent way to solve the overviews that have been horrible done.

Next question could we have more than 5 tabs, maybe 8 or 10?
Everlast Darkheart
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2014-07-31 23:38:48 UTC
Can we also fix the annoying "Pilot has no standing" state. From my understanding its currently impossible to create a friendly (good/excellent/corp/fleet standing) overview without also having pilots with no standing included.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#58 - 2014-07-31 23:42:49 UTC
Will some one with the fancy in space colored or resorted info line see if that info sticks thru the new save option.

Thanks.

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Kniht
#59 - 2014-08-01 00:02:53 UTC
Dread Nanana wrote:
CCP Turtlepower wrote:

We included a warning box that cannot be suppressed, hopefully that will prevent any misunderstandings.


Please make sure that any default action (pressing Enter) is a negative (No), not a positive. As you may know, people don't read (ex. error messages, confirmation, warnings, wills, power of attorney, EULAs, etc.)

...employment history, forums, marriage licenses, local, CTAs, corp mails from CEOs, fuel notifications...

o/ fly crazy
MuraSaki Siki
ChuangShi
Fraternity.
#60 - 2014-08-01 00:26:06 UTC  |  Edited by: MuraSaki Siki
tested the feature in sisi.

filter tab
- new 'states' tab layout is easy to understand :D

appearance
'ewar' tab is missing, is it intentional?
"Like" the new color setting option Big smile