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High Security Anomolies - Dread Guristas Loot Table - Why God?

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Alina Emily
The Needs Of The Few
#1 - 2014-07-31 05:05:00 UTC
So, I have been running high sec anomalies for about 8 years.

I remember the good old days, even before I knew what the hell I was doing, occasionally I would get a drop that for some reason was worth MILLIONS!

Years later, I started to pay attention, read the forums, absorbed Eveness.

Enter the Dread Guristas Spawns. Rare chance for a decent drop, but a chance. Maybe 1-5 out of 100. Sometimes you could even get an escalation.

Now... Nothing. No decent loot, no escalations. I ran 100 before I came here to comment and seek comments, and I realize it is chance based. I am getting plenty of Dread spawns, but never a decent drop, and never an escalation, in high sec. Ever. Never, never never and ever never.

I know this was not always so. I understand that it may be statistically possible, but also highly unlikely. Maybe if I run a 1000 and have the same result, I can have some forum cred?

I continue to run anomalies because large green bars in my scanner view annoy me. I also like popping 3 frigs in under 5 seconds... Nice to use those wasted missile skills for something.

So yes, this is mostly a QQ thread that my carrot may have been removed, loot tables changed, and if I want to chase 5m ISK Dread modules, I'll have to go to low sec.

What I truly seek is validation from others that play this anomaly thing over the years. Please have vast amounts of empirical and recent experience on this issue before you comment and flame my space bothers and sisters.

Please be advised that I have this giant scar on my cheek not because of a lighting flaw, but from a fierce forum troll who abused me.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#2 - 2014-07-31 05:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
Give high sec anomalies better loot chances but also increase number of NPCs so it takes much longer to clear them, increasing chances for player interference. Actually, maybe they could get some faction weapon drops because the market for those is pretty ****** anyway.
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#3 - 2014-07-31 05:10:31 UTC
I heard the high sec exploration combat sites were even better than the anomalies, so I thought I'd try it out. Ran some down and killed some True Sansha rats. Got excited to go loot their wrecks and got a single frequency crystal. Five times in a row. I didn't run any more combat sites after that.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#4 - 2014-07-31 05:16:36 UTC
I guess I just get really good luck with combat sites because all I hear is people complaining about the loot they get from them, yet every time I do them, I get all the shiny drops.
Alina Emily
The Needs Of The Few
#5 - 2014-07-31 05:21:18 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
I guess I just get really good luck with combat sites because all I hear is people complaining about the loot they get from them, yet every time I do them, I get all the shiny drops.


I too get the same old drops from scanned combat sites. Usually Pith C type goodies.

Anomlees, not anymore. Evar!

I fear that high security anomalies have changed, and that perhaps my cheese has been moved. With the current cost of these modules I wonder why, as they are a fraction of what they were worth 10,000 years ago, when it was so lucrative to get a drop once or twice a month.

Alas, I must read a new one minute manager book to try and inspire me to move on with my space life.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
#6 - 2014-07-31 05:23:22 UTC
It was the same for the random belt spawn.

2005, I hadn't even started paying for the game, I was still on trial and I encountered a Shadow Serpentis in an .8 system. It dropped a Daredevil blueprint copy that I abruptly made and trained to fly. It was the single motivating factor in me buying the account and continuing EVE. It was also the last one I would ever loot. Having killed thousands of Shadow/ Dark/ True/ Dread and Domination I have seen many implants, many faction fittings, several POS bpc's and most in HS. None in the last 3 years though. 40% and 60% ammo and a garbage dog tag. I don't know why CCP thought it would be smart to take the little things away from players. I hope it worked out for them, whatever it was they were trying to do.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-07-31 05:25:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
I don't believe there is a problem, the 'RNG' is a fickle beast and I've had WAY worse than a 100 anom escalation drought.

That being said, I haven't had an escalation doing null, low and high sec anoms in something like 7 weeks. I'm not kidding there, 7 weeks. Longest 'drought' I had before that was 3 weeks. It's distantly possible that something got screwed up in some patch or another, but none of us (as players) have enough data to say for sure. It is still probably just "the RNG hates me".

Another couple weeks and I'm gonna petiton...just to hear a GM say "working as intended" so I know they still exist lol.

PS, there is no high sec consiracy here, droughts happen everywhwere.
Alina Emily
The Needs Of The Few
#8 - 2014-07-31 05:26:37 UTC
Ocih wrote:
It was the same for the random belt spawn.

2005, I hadn't even started paying for the game, I was still on trial and I encountered a Shadow Serpentis in an .8 system. It dropped a Daredevil blueprint copy that I abruptly made and trained to fly. It was the single motivating factor in me buying the account and continuing EVE. It was also the last one I would ever loot. Having killed thousands of Shadow/ Dark/ True/ Dread and Domination I have seen many implants, many faction fittings, several POS bpc's and most in HS. None in the last 3 years though. 40% and 60% ammo and a garbage dog tag. I don't know why CCP thought it would be smart to take the little things away from players. I hope it worked out for them, whatever it was they were trying to do.


I love you, first of all. I have been redeemed! You are truly my salvation and the reason for my forum post.

This is an exact first hand, well written, empirical evidence post!

Also, you picked out exactly the thrill I lamely described in the start of my post, the thrill of a rare drop, as a trial player...

Thank you, space goddess.
GOB the Magician
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-07-31 05:26:49 UTC
Alina Emily wrote:
So, I have been running high sec anomalies for about 8 years.


you've played this game for 8 years with a focus on high sec anoms. consider this perceived ~nerf a blessing and do something else.
Alina Emily
The Needs Of The Few
#10 - 2014-07-31 05:33:25 UTC
GOB the Magician wrote:
Alina Emily wrote:
So, I have been running high sec anomalies for about 8 years.


you've played this game for 8 years with a focus on high sec anoms. consider this perceived ~nerf a blessing and do something else.


Understood. As an 8 year player, I tend to move around a lot with what I do. Keep it fresh. Having a very high SP toon, things get stale and I find myself flying minmatard, err winmatar just for lols?

At least my perfect blasters skills are paying off with the Vindi... I knew my turn would roll around if I waited long enough!

That said, gibe me my damn 5m ISK Dread drops back noahhhhhww!
Alina Emily
The Needs Of The Few
#11 - 2014-07-31 05:52:03 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I don't believe there is a problem, the 'RNG' is a fickle beast and I've had WAY worse than a 100 anom escalation drought.

That being said, I haven't had an escalation doing null, low and high sec anoms in something like 7 weeks. I'm not kidding there, 7 weeks. Longest 'drought' I had before that was 3 weeks. It's distantly possible that something got screwed up in some patch or another, but none of us (as players) have enough data to say for sure. It is still probably just "the RNG hates me".

Another couple weeks and I'm gonna petiton...just to hear a GM say "working as intended" so I know they still exist lol.

PS, there is no high sec consiracy here, droughts happen everywhwere.


Agreed, while I do not deny QQ, no tinfoil hat. I realize it is possible. But thank you for input.

7 Weeks is a fairly long run. I have run across some bugs with the new patch, it happens. Takes time for stuff to get fixed as well. This is an ancient game content area, so I thought it might get ignored.
Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-07-31 05:59:36 UTC
There are quite a few changes I would like to see in general.

Why the hell do I find meta 2 modules + OPE in a 3.. 4.. 5/10 ? And that is it ?

I clear this site, rush 1-4 other pilots only to find..... level 1 mission loot? :)

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-07-31 06:15:28 UTC
Normal mission loot tables seem to have changed lately, maybe the anoms have changed as well as an unintended side effect.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2014-07-31 06:43:10 UTC
Using a Vindicator in highsec anomolies seems a little over the top. I use an assault frigate in the lowsec ones, or at most a HAC.

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Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-07-31 06:45:56 UTC
from my experience (around 30 ded+unrated in the last two weeks) loot chance looks like to have been lowered.
a devel said that with kronos people doing exploration increased by around 60%, price of blue stuff on market is falling so maybe this is how they compensate.
Alina Emily
The Needs Of The Few
#16 - 2014-07-31 07:03:39 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Using a Vindicator in highsec anomolies seems a little over the top. I use an assault frigate in the lowsec ones, or at most a HAC.


Sarcasm is like a dead art. Some say weak of mind, some say strong of humor. You decide.

Why people insist when a single topic of gameplay is brought to light, that it is THE ONLY AREA OF GAMEPLAY I HAVE EVER DONE? Why God? Why?

For your information, I do indeed fly a HAC, with rapids, as it blasts the SH__ out of frigs and fills me with a sense of joy that I wasted months on missile skills.

My point was I have done this for a few months, even before Crius a River, which I love that meme btw...

I am getting valid feedback, which is epic. And no one has made fun of my scar. I finally feel like I am fitting into the community!



Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#17 - 2014-07-31 07:04:42 UTC
The loot chance has not been lowered. I have sampled a few thousand anomolies now. The longest gap 230 between escalations for gurista rally point. It is not at all uncommon to sample a run of 3x the expectation in failures. The best flip side I've seen is 3 escalations of serpentis den in 10 runs after 175 with none.

Serp den averages 8% commander and 4% escalation for me. I've escalated gurista den a couple of times.

The commanders have the racial implants ie snake for serpentis and crystal for gurista on their loot tables. The best drop I've seen was a 300m snake lg epsilon (happened a couple of times) - I have a full set of snakes and I eventually got 4 vigilants from escalations. Sample a few thousand and I'm sure you'll do same from gurista.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2014-07-31 07:50:29 UTC
RNG is R, I'm afraid.
I've had silly high success rates with all kinds of exploration the last few times I did it, so that's probably where all the good die rolls have gone. Blink
Ton'Ka Katsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-07-31 09:03:04 UTC
yeah they killed high sec stuff. but remember that was a call the players cried for. to kick players to null and low for loot and content. they did this around the time they messed cobalt edge to hell and back. viva drone goo.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-07-31 09:06:32 UTC
I always thought highsec drop rates were a little high considering how often I heard about people getting rare modules there, compared to how bad they often are in nullsec.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

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