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Venture Kills Competition - Brought to you by Code.

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Rose of Shadow
Deep Lovin
#161 - 2014-07-31 14:14:17 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Rose of Shadow wrote:
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
Rose of Shadow wrote:


It's like punching babies in the face and laughing at them when they start to cry.

Some people seem to enjoy it.


What is wrong with you. It is not anymore like punching a baby in the face than its water boarding Obama.

Its effing venture's for gods sake. With a warp core strength of 2. This is a *game* where you get to shoot other space ships.

If you don't like games where people shoot other people in space ships, then perhaps eve is not for you.



I shoot ships all the time. I love PvP Blink even though PvP doesn't seem to love me back .. haha. I'll get the hang of it in time Smile

The relevance of this competition is just... I don't know. I just don't see the point in shooting ventures. They don't shoot back and to get over the strengthened core you just have to change your fit a bit.

I guess if you're bored.. then go for it. But remember, there are many, many other less mind numbing activities to do in EVE Smile


There doesn't need to be a point. This is a game about shooting spaceships. It is fun to shoot space ships. A Venture is a space ship. End of debate.


Okay, I hope you'll have fun Smile I really do!
TharOkha
0asis Group
#162 - 2014-07-31 14:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:

There doesn't need to be a point. This is a game about shooting spaceships. It is fun to shoot space ships. A Venture is a space ship. End of debate.


Well.....yeah.... Big smile but seriously.... VENTURES ? Big smile .......its noob mining frigate ffsake... You cant go lower that this Bear ...well...you can. .....Possible "Rookie ship kills competition" is lower Big smile
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#163 - 2014-07-31 14:36:28 UTC
You can get great kills in both ventures and rookie ships. They are not bad at what they do.

Perhaps pods is lower, or shuttles.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.

Can't Touch-This
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#164 - 2014-07-31 14:48:59 UTC
It's the Eve version of the Special Olympics.
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#165 - 2014-07-31 15:11:18 UTC
Can't Touch-This wrote:
It's the Eve version of the Special Olympics.

Don't insult the Special Olympics like that.
Just Got OutOfJail
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#166 - 2014-07-31 15:45:22 UTC
James 315 saved my marriage
Hannibal Crusoe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#167 - 2014-07-31 17:29:43 UTC
Punching a baby in the face sounds very risky.
They probably have powerful parents in null.

Ride a white mare in the footsteps of dawn

CCP Falcon
#168 - 2014-07-31 17:34:38 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
As an added bonus Code Alliance is willing to give another plex to the youngest venture pilot killer during the competition!


The way I read this is that a PLEX will be awarded to the youngest pilot who takes part in the competition and goes out to kill ventures, rather than the youngest victim that's killed in the event. If this is the case, then there's no problem in my mind.

This event seems along the lines of "Hulkageddon", just on a far smaller and less grand scale. It also seems to be targeting a specific class of ship rather than all barges and mining ships.

This thread has been reported to us a number of times for potentially being a source of rookie griefing, so here's the lowdown on where we stand:

While there are no rules against running an event of this nature and frankly we don't want to start trying to control the actions of players within EVE, ventures are typically flown by relatively young players who are working toward flying larger and more efficient mining hulls.

With this in mind, please be aware that if this event becomes a source of rookie griefing, or begins to take place in and around rookie starting systems where new players are being harassed, then our policies on new player harassment and griefing will come into play.

Tread very carefully with this event, as rookie player harassment is something we take extremely seriously, and punishment for violation of these policies is often swift and harsh.

If you have any questions about our rookie harassment policies, you can file a support ticket and ask the GM Team.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#169 - 2014-07-31 18:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Delt0r Garsk
What i find amusing is that everyone wants in on this event. Perhaps its all alts or something.

There are alternatives to just whining away in this thread is perhaps get out there and get kills in ventures.

You could get 4 PLEX.

So i seems CODE got it right. This is the sort of thing people want to do....

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.

Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
#170 - 2014-07-31 19:28:13 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Tyyler DURden wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
People Die, Antigankers Cry and the Code just keeps on Winning!

Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile

Be a part of the content creation this August!

Why does code continue to let you speak for them?


Who are you?

I'm the guy who knows how to communicate with other players in this game without sounding socially inept.
Nor do I answer questions put to me with another question.
That's who I am, you must be the other guy.
Once again, why does code keep letting you speak for them?

Tyyler DURden says "use soap"

Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#171 - 2014-07-31 20:38:18 UTC
Why would you target Ventures? They are only flown by new players in highsec.

Maybe it would make sense if the competition was held in lowsec. But somehow I can't see you doing that.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

TharOkha
0asis Group
#172 - 2014-07-31 20:49:29 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
For what it's worth, until I saw the bot figures at FanFest, I encouraged my fellow Agents to not shoot Ventures.

After seeing those figures - wow. Something like 50% of the bots banned gamewide are Venture pilots.


Man this is horrible conclusion Evil

50% of banned bots who flew ventures doesn't mean that 50% of all venture pilots out there are bots.

Your conclusion is very silly and illogical.

Lets just say that ......(statistically).... 50% of all criminals wears red shirts

By your logic...... 50% of all people who wears red shirt are criminals and needs to be shot down. Yea... even the good ones. And only in secure places (hi-sec)

Such faulty logic is seen only among creationists, AGW deniers or anti-vaxers ffsake !!! Evil

Do you realize that venture is primary mining noob ship?

I always was and always will support serious and reasonable happenings, like Hulkageddon or Burn Jita. But Venture hunt seems like very bad idea based on faulty logic for me IdeaUgh

I can guarantee you that most of your Venture kills will be newborns. Roll

This just throw a bad shadow on CODE. So far, CODE has been just clowns of the hisec, bullies and bottom-feeders... But after this venture hunt, they will be newborn killers.... Such "reputation" is bad even in ruthless EVE Roll
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#173 - 2014-07-31 23:16:21 UTC
Who should I contact for awarding globs of gank catalysts for various "Most ganks with a ship type" and "most targets ganked with a single ship"
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#174 - 2014-07-31 23:42:01 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
For what it's worth, until I saw the bot figures at FanFest, I encouraged my fellow Agents to not shoot Ventures.

After seeing those figures - wow. Something like 50% of the bots banned gamewide are Venture pilots.


Man this is horrible conclusion Evil

50% of banned bots who flew ventures doesn't mean that 50% of all venture pilots out there are bots.

Your conclusion is very silly and illogical.

Lets just say that ......(statistically).... 50% of all criminals wears red shirts

By your logic...... 50% of all people who wears red shirt are criminals and needs to be shot down. Yea... even the good ones. And only in secure places (hi-sec)

Such faulty logic is seen only among creationists, AGW deniers or anti-vaxers ffsake !!! Evil

Do you realize that venture is primary mining noob ship?

I always was and always will support serious and reasonable happenings, like Hulkageddon or Burn Jita. But Venture hunt seems like very bad idea based on faulty logic for me IdeaUgh

I can guarantee you that most of your Venture kills will be newborns. Roll

This just throw a bad shadow on CODE. So far, CODE has been just clowns of the hisec, bullies and bottom-feeders... But after this venture hunt, they will be newborn killers.... Such "reputation" is bad even in ruthless EVE Roll



You should learn more about correlation and causation.

Correlation does not prove causation. However, it does merit further investigation.

Two examples:
1) The negative case. Someone detected a correlation between vaccines and childhood autism. After some false starts, scientists investigate thoroughly, and prove beyond reasonable doubt that there is no link.
2) The positive case. Someone detected a link between asbestos use in residential construction and cancer. Scientists investigate thoroughly and prove beyond reasonable doubt that there is a link.

In both cases the initial correlation needed to be taken seriously and investigated.

The Venture - not the 'AFKtar', not the Thanatos, not a Marauder, not even exhumers - is the most commonly banned botting ship in EVE. There are a wide variety of possibilities as to why. But it is an undeniable fact that a large number of people set up trial accounts, train them into Ventures, and run bots on them in the safety of highsec.



As for newbies - we are very clear that shooting them in rookie systems is not on. Otherwise, what's the big deal? I remember the thrill of getting shot at when I was a rookie and did something dangerous (bought a skillbook in lowsec, I think in Egghelende, although it might have been Decon) and the even bigger thrill of safely docking in low armor, injecting my new Gallente Cruiser skillbook, and logging off to plan my escape.

Being shot at early in a fight where I couldn't win, that I could only escape helped me get hooked on EVE.

Since then I've accidentally shot a few legitimate newbies, and every time I see the killmail, I recognise that my rival was clueless, and give them advice.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#175 - 2014-08-01 02:38:01 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Why would you target Ventures? They are only flown by new players in highsec.

Maybe it would make sense if the competition was held in lowsec. But somehow I can't see you doing that.



Hm, I'm trying to think of a reason a mining pilot in high sec who could fly a barge would choose to take a venture instead.

Not wanting to "risk" the 20mil?
Bianca Silver
Division 13
#176 - 2014-08-01 03:59:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Bianca Silver
Wow if only pod value was counted too.

This troubled little Sebiestor set out to train her way to ganking-glory merely three days ago. Her first test-gank was in fact none other than... a Venture, which she discovered was piloted by a 500m clone. She was lucky enough to get a 5m bounty for her effort, and then another 5m bounty after trying to sell the victim's corpse back to him. He later returned in a Vigilant and tried to hurt my poor little minx. Picking on a 2 day old pilot no less what a bully he was! I'm so proud of Bianca, I figured that was a good sign for her first day on the job pvp'ing.

She's shifted up a level today and had her first two successful Retriever ganks. Girl's a natural.
S'Way
State War Academy
Caldari State
#177 - 2014-08-01 06:44:40 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

With this in mind, please be aware that if this event becomes a source of rookie griefing, or begins to take place in and around rookie starting systems where new players are being harassed, then our policies on new player harassment and griefing will come into play.

Now CCP's said that, the questions got to be asked (because a lot seem to be under the impression it was only rookie systems where it was classed as harassing new players) - how far does "around" cover ? because some rookie systems like Kisogo and Chaven are only 2 jumps from Perimeter and Amarr (where lots of things go pop).

Just an idea but maybe sometime in the future there could be a symbol added on the overview next to a pilots name to designate pilots under say a month old ? That way people doing these types of events could clearly see if they were targetting a newer player without having to "show info, check employment history" which might mean they miss a kill or make a mistake when flying around trade hub areas close to rookie systems.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#178 - 2014-08-01 07:58:46 UTC
S'Way wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

With this in mind, please be aware that if this event becomes a source of rookie griefing, or begins to take place in and around rookie starting systems where new players are being harassed, then our policies on new player harassment and griefing will come into play.

Now CCP's said that, the questions got to be asked (because a lot seem to be under the impression it was only rookie systems where it was classed as harassing new players) - how far does "around" cover ? because some rookie systems like Kisogo and Chaven are only 2 jumps from Perimeter and Amarr (where lots of things go pop).

Just an idea but maybe sometime in the future there could be a symbol added on the overview next to a pilots name to designate pilots under say a month old ? That way people doing these types of events could clearly see if they were targetting a newer player without having to "show info, check employment history" which might mean they miss a kill or make a mistake when flying around trade hub areas close to rookie systems.



Rookie systems need to be clearer, I have accidentally posted scams in one before as I was flying through for other reasons.

As far as I'm aware the rules apply to rookie systems and gate camps on the other side of their gates.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#179 - 2014-08-01 08:21:51 UTC
Use your common sense. You are essentially saying, "I want to run a competition that will disproportionately target newer players but don't want to get banned."

Why would CCP want to help? And why would you want to do that? It does not help the game.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

loyalanon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#180 - 2014-08-01 08:39:16 UTC
Just to clear up any confusion.

We do not support the ganking of pilots in Rookie Systems or Rookies in General. This is an Anti-ganker community propaganda and the conclusion that everyone is jumping to however we have never said we will gank in rookie systems.

If you do so - it is at your own risk.

Now that this is cleared up

https://zkillboard.com/ship/32880/losses/

21 Venture kills in High sec at the time of this writing I will post every few days with counts of how many have been killed etc and update my original prize as more donations come in.