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Dude, where did my war targets in my 'War Target' overview tab go?

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#21 - 2014-07-31 11:44:12 UTC
Marc Durant wrote:
This has been around since the beginning of time and it never got sorted, because high sec wardecs don't mesh too well with the "we want more players so we'll allow for easier carebearing" which has been changing the game for years now, apart from that 0.0 sock puppet CSM don't care.
Wow, such sad. So are you saying that if you wardec people who have zero chance of fighting back, you aren't a carebear? Just because your chosen reward is kill reports doesn't mean the wardeccers don't just farm kills in the same way a miner farms roids. Wardecs should actually matter, to both the aggressor and the defender. Right now they are just a way for PvPers too scared to move to low or null to fight people who have zero interest and experience in PvP.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#22 - 2014-07-31 11:50:15 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Wardecs should actually matter, to both the aggressor and the defender.

Why? That's certainly not CCPs view.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#23 - 2014-07-31 12:06:23 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Wardecs should actually matter, to both the aggressor and the defender.
Why? That's certainly not CCPs view.
Citation needed. They don;t matter now, but I don't think that's the way they are intended to be forever.

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Marc Durant
#24 - 2014-07-31 12:22:17 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Marc Durant wrote:
This has been around since the beginning of time and it never got sorted, because high sec wardecs don't mesh too well with the "we want more players so we'll allow for easier carebearing" which has been changing the game for years now, apart from that 0.0 sock puppet CSM don't care.
Wow, such sad. So are you saying that if you wardec people who have zero chance of fighting back, you aren't a carebear? Just because your chosen reward is kill reports doesn't mean the wardeccers don't just farm kills in the same way a miner farms roids. Wardecs should actually matter, to both the aggressor and the defender. Right now they are just a way for PvPers too scared to move to low or null to fight people who have zero interest and experience in PvP.



Did you actually care to read what the OP is about?

Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#25 - 2014-07-31 12:23:38 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Citation needed. They don;t matter now, but I don't think that's the way they are intended to be forever.

You can use Google yourself to look up the Devblogs:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/changes-to-war-mechanics

Quote:
Out of these speculations we came up with a few guidelines, which can be summarized as follows:

  • Tighten the war system, so it becomes clear how wars start, proceed and end.
  • Make war progression (i.e. how everyone’s faring) more visible, both for strategic and status reasons.
  • Make fighting wars a viable career path for dedicated mercenary corps.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#26 - 2014-07-31 13:39:28 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Citation needed. They don;t matter now, but I don't think that's the way they are intended to be forever.

You can use Google yourself to look up the Devblogs:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/changes-to-war-mechanics

Quote:
Out of these speculations we came up with a few guidelines, which can be summarized as follows:

  • Tighten the war system, so it becomes clear how wars start, proceed and end.
  • Make war progression (i.e. how everyone’s faring) more visible, both for strategic and status reasons.
  • Make fighting wars a viable career path for dedicated mercenary corps.
And none of it says "Make wars so pointless that you start up hundreds of them against noobs". Wars start for pretty much no reason, just on a whim, and they are often ignored or bypassed just as easily. Wars mean pretty much zip to the majority of the community.

The idea of the changes was to make it so that when corp A declares war on corp B, corp B can hire corp C to help them. What actually happens is Corp A declares on corp B, Corp C offers help for a fee, but are actually just corp A. Corps D, E and F all offer support with no intent of actually fighting in the war, just collecting the fee, while corp G decs all of the others because "why not". It's an enormously pointless system.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#27 - 2014-07-31 14:25:35 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
Muadd Dibb wrote:
Blimmey Lucas that it such a lame post considering the OP's question. Obviously you not satisfied with mocking in C&P you had to bring that shite in General Discussion.
Don't blame me, blame pasta. It was their tears that summoned me to GD. Seeing a NightmareX post just demanded a response, and when the questions is "I can't find all of the noobs my alliance attacks", the response was obvious. And lets face it, the issue is that it's so cheap and easy to wardec noob corps that groups like marmi9te can wardec hundreds of them for practically nowt. If they only had 10 wars, the standings thing wouldn't be an issue. So it's a self inflicted issue. *shrug*

If you don't understand the problem, can you please leave this topic?

Thank you.

EDIT: Or do you want me to get you kicked out of the whole alliance you are in this time as you suddenly got kicked out of the 'JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS [JSR1] from 2012.12.18 16:02 to 2014.07.24 17:46.' corp last time you had a massive rage against me?

Don't mess with me. Just sayin.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#28 - 2014-07-31 15:28:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
NightmareX wrote:
If you don't understand the problem, can you please leave this topic?
I do understand. You are crying because the war targets part of the overview doesn't work as expected in several situations, and you have too many wars set up from pretend clients to be able to use the normal workaround. I'd consider that user error.

NightmareX wrote:
EDIT: Or do you want me to get you kicked out of the whole alliance you are in this time as you suddenly got kicked out of the 'JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS [JSR1] from 2012.12.18 16:02 to 2014.07.24 17:46.' corp last time you had a massive rage against me?

Don't mess with me. Just sayin.
LOL. What was that about if you don't understand, please leave? Ever heard of a corp merge? Try taking a look at the corps on dotlan. Even better, you can see the post where I dunked Tora for spewing the same nonsense here.

I do love how you've jumped into a claim you had something to do with me changing corp only to be shown to be talking total rubbish. That's even better than Tora's "My inside intel says that...". Try again kiddo.

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Galadriel Vasquez
Project Omega Industries
#29 - 2014-07-31 15:42:12 UTC
Reaching for the popcorn right now.....

I may charge an admission fee to this.

I have tin foil hat trained to 5.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2014-07-31 15:45:14 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
If you don't understand the problem, can you please leave this topic?
I do understand. You are crying because the war targets part of the overview doesn't work as expected in several situations, and you have too many wars set up from pretend clients to be able to use the normal workaround. I'd consider that user error.

NightmareX wrote:
EDIT: Or do you want me to get you kicked out of the whole alliance you are in this time as you suddenly got kicked out of the 'JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS [JSR1] from 2012.12.18 16:02 to 2014.07.24 17:46.' corp last time you had a massive rage against me?

Don't mess with me. Just sayin.
LOL. What was that about if you don't understand, please leave? Ever heard of a corp merge? Try taking a look at the corps on dotlan. Even better, you can see the post where I dunked Tora for spewing the same nonsense here.

I do love how you've jumped into a claim you had something to do with me changing corp only to be shown to be talking total rubbish. That's even better than Tora's "My inside intel says that...". Try again kiddo.

You don't do empire wars so you don't know what i'm talking about. You have to do empire wars in populated trade hubs to see and feel the problem. Good luck on clicking on the war targets on the overview with 1 billion other neutrals in the mess there without misslocking other neutrals.

It's about sorting out war targets in the same way as you sort your asteroids out on your overview.

You are a crying 0.0 space carebear where you don't have the same issues as we do have, so keep staying in carebear heaven. And keep pretending that you are so genious about the issues with the overview in empire. Those issues have been in EVE for years, so don't pretend to make it look like it's not a problem.

If you knows about the problem i'm talking about, why don't you join forces with us to get all those issues with the overview fixed by CCP instead of crying like a baby?

If you think the issues with the war targets is the only problem the overview have, then you haven't played EVE much.

EDIT: You might be right about the merging of the corps, but it was kinda funny to see that you so suddenly gave up on me in the earlier topic where we discussed and then one day later you changed corp.

Or maybe you made the 'JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS [JSR1]' corp to looks like complete idiots with your raging and then the other members there wanted to change corp because you destroyed the reputation the corp had?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#31 - 2014-07-31 16:06:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
NightmareX wrote:
You don't do empire wars so you don't know what i'm talking about. You have to do empire wars in populated trade hubs to see and feel the problem. Good luck on clicking on the war targets on the overview with 1 billion other neutrals in the mess there without misslocking other neutrals.
lol, clearly I do understand. You can't see war targets because the overview settings for war targets doesn't work correctly, and you can't use the normal workaround, because it would take you an age to add and remove all of the corps you dec to your standings list. It's sounds remarkably like your problem. Try shedding some wardecs and you can use the workaround which works for everyone else. CCP aren't going to swoop in and fix a bug which is years old just because 1 corp can't manage their standings.

NightmareX wrote:
You are a crying 0.0 space carebear where you don't have the same issues as we do have, so keep staying in carebear heaven. And keep pretending that you are so genious about the issues with the overview in empire. Those issues have been in EVE for years, so don't pretend to make it look like it's not a problem.
You're right, I don't have the same issues (though to suggest I've never been involved in high sec wars in laughable). The difference is though, when I encounter a problem, I seek a solution, rather than leaping into GD screaming and crying like an entitled child.

NightmareX wrote:
EDIT: You might be right about the merging of the corps, but it was kinda funny to see that you so suddenly gave up on me in the earlier topic where we discussed and then one day later you changed corp.

Or maybe you made the 'JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS [JSR1]' corp to looks like complete idiots with your raging and then they wanted to change corp because you destroyed the reputation that corp had?
Thank you for suggesting I might know what's going on with my own corp. Now I doubt anyone in the CFC has ever worried about shiptoasting on the forums, especially when all I was doing was repeatedly dunking some kid from a wannabe merc corp about their terrible hub camping.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2014-07-31 16:17:41 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
lol, clearly I do understand. You can't see war targets because the overview settings for war targets doesn't work correctly, and you can't use the normal workaround, because it would take you an age to add and remove all of the corps you dec to your standings list. It's sounds remarkably like your problem. Try shedding some wardecs and you can use the workaround which works for everyone else. CCP aren't going to swoop in and fix a bug which is years old just because 1 corp can't manage their standings.

Ahhhhh, i see, so i have to use workarounds to get around the issues with the overview.

Man, you are genious.

It's a problem for everyone who does wars, so yes, it's a huge problem. So why not get it fixed like CCP are fixing other things in the game to make EVE a better game to play?

Lucas Kell wrote:
You're right, I don't have the same issues (though to suggest I've never been involved in high sec wars in laughable). The difference is though, when I encounter a problem, I seek a solution, rather than leaping into GD screaming and crying like an entitled child.

I was going to take a ferry one day earlier. The ferry was broken that day, so i had to take a long way around (took one hour extra) by a car to get where i wanted. Just because there is alternative routes around, does it mean that the ferry should just stays broken forever because of it?

Lucas Kell wrote:
Thank you for suggesting I might know what's going on with my own corp. Now I doubt anyone in the CFC has ever worried about shiptoasting on the forums, especially when all I was doing was repeatedly dunking some kid from a wannabe merc corp about their terrible hub camping.

But you knows more about what empire wars / empire PVP is than i do and what my alliance leaders knows after the last discussion we had. If you know that, then what prevents me from knowing more about your alliance than you knows about it?

If you knows more about your corp / alliance than i do, then i knows more about the corp / alliance i'm in than you do.

It's that simple, bud.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#33 - 2014-07-31 16:28:23 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Ahhhhh, i see, so i have to use workarounds to get around the issues with the overview.

Man, you are genious.

It's a problem for everyone who does wars, so yes, it's a huge problem. So why not get it fixed like CCP are fixing other things in the game to make EVE a better game to play?
Yes, you have to use a workaround, like everyone else. The tiny group of people this issue affects is not worth the time it would take to rewrite core code, so I'm sure one day when they fix wardecs altogether they'll fix it. Until then you can quit crying.

Or is it because you think you are so super important that you deserve this fix? I forgot your ex-... erm, it's on the tip of my tongue... what was it, afterbirth?

NightmareX wrote:
I was going to take a ferry one day earlier. The ferry was broken that day, so i had to take a long way around (took one hour extra) by a car to get where i wanted. Just because there is alternative routes around, does it mean that the ferry should just stays broken forever because of it?
When the ferry has always been broken, 99% of people don't care about the ferry being broken and to repair the ferry would be outlandishly expensive in comparison with the benefit, then yes, you should always go around it. Expecting them to fix it because you've put yourself in a position where working around it is difficult is dumb.

NightmareX wrote:
But you knows more about what empire wars / empire PVP is than i do and what my alliance leaders knows after the last discussion we had. If you know that, then what prevents me from knowing more about your alliance than you knows about it?

If you knows more about your corp / alliance than i do, then i knows more about the corp / alliance i'm in than you do.

It's that simple, bud.
I know what *real* PvP is, and ganking industrial ships on a hub undock is not *real* PvP. And I certainly know that other empire PvP war corps even looking at you the wrong way cause you to dock up. Laughably, you call yourselves mercs, but when a single member of your alliance left and threatened to attack you, you hired other merc corps to defend you.

And you can claim what you want about my alliance, just as I can claim what I want about yours. The difference is, people can clearly see what a corp merge is from the stats, while from your stats people can clearly see you're a bunch of risk averse wannabe pvpers. It's not like it's a secret that Marmite are terrible at EVE. I'm surprised you still haven't noticed, being ex-afterbirth and all.

(I forgot how much fun this can be when you are on a rage.)

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Nadine Jones
Holes with Worms
#34 - 2014-07-31 16:34:44 UTC
Just as an FYI: It's not just the war target setting that doesn't work properly.
Try building an overview that only shows fleet members, regardless of their standing - not possible either.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-07-31 16:42:39 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Marc Durant wrote:
This has been around since the beginning of time and it never got sorted, because high sec wardecs don't mesh too well with the "we want more players so we'll allow for easier carebearing" which has been changing the game for years now, apart from that 0.0 sock puppet CSM don't care.
Wow, such sad. So are you saying that if you wardec people who have zero chance of fighting back, you aren't a carebear? Just because your chosen reward is kill reports doesn't mean the wardeccers don't just farm kills in the same way a miner farms roids. Wardecs should actually matter, to both the aggressor and the defender. Right now they are just a way for PvPers too scared to move to low or null to fight people who have zero interest and experience in PvP.



That absurd level of arrogance and ignorance.... We have always spoken and delivered.. we declare both easy kill (for money) as good targets for good fights. What we usually do not war dec are 0.0 alliances because they are neither profitable (they fly only crap stuff badly fitted) and neither provide good fights since they are running and hiding most of the time.

Anyone that thinks can pvp well we will gladly fight in high sec (or even border of low sec but we avoid anythign involving capital blobs) as long as they do not bring 20 times our numbers (we are good.. not stupid)

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#36 - 2014-07-31 16:52:35 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
Yes, you have to use a workaround, like everyone else. The tiny group of people this issue affects is not worth the time it would take to rewrite core code, so I'm sure one day when they fix wardecs altogether they'll fix it. Until then you can quit crying.

Or is it because you think you are so super important that you deserve this fix? I forgot your ex-... erm, it's on the tip of my tongue... what was it, afterbirth?

This might be new to you, but i'm not complaining about the workaround i have to do (as you are talking about) as i'm not using that workaround by setting personal standings as i use the hard way by using the overview as it is now (witch is the easiest workaround). I'm complaining about the issues with the overview CCP haven't fixed yet. The more peoples that complains about it the bigger the chances is that they are going to fix it.

Yeah omg, CCP have to rewrite codes. Such a disaster. Ofc they have to do alot of rewriting in the code to fix alot of the issues. It's the same when CCP went from Python to the new system. They had to rewrite tons of new things to be able to fix many of the issues EVE had. So why can't they fix the issues with the overview (witch is a HUUUUUUGE part of the game btw) when they fix others issues with the game?

I'm more important than you when it comes to this as i'm doing empire wars everyday, so i can speak highly about this. You on the other hands can only speak about 0.0 space.

Lucas Kell wrote:
When the ferry has always been broken, 99% of people don't care about the ferry being broken and to repair the ferry would be outlandishly expensive in comparison with the benefit, then yes, you should always go around it. Expecting them to fix it because you've put yourself in a position where working around it is difficult is dumb.

No, the ferry was working earlier in the same way as the war targets in the overview was working as intended back in the days. So just because the ferry haven't worked for a long time (out of service), it means that they can't fix it to make it easier for travelers to get over to the place they are going to?

Lucas Kell wrote:
I know what *real* PvP is, and ganking industrial ships on a hub undock is not *real* PvP. And I certainly know that other empire PvP war corps even looking at you the wrong way cause you to dock up. Laughably, you call yourselves mercs, but when a single member of your alliance left and threatened to attack you, you hired other merc corps to defend you.

No, you know what massive blob PVP is while i know what ganking is. Is any of those things better than each others?

No, massive blobbing in 0.0 space is what we call pussie PVP in the same way as you call ganking in empire for the same. They aren't better at anything between those types of PVP.

And, just to let you know, the 2 last major fight i have been in, it wasn't us who ran or docked up, it was our enemies / war targets in that fight who docked up. We play safe alot of the times as that's a huge part of being a mercenary. And you tell us all that you didn't know this?

Lucas Kell wrote:
And you can claim what you want about my alliance, just as I can claim what I want about yours. The difference is, people can clearly see what a corp merge is from the stats, while from your stats people can clearly see you're a bunch of risk averse wannabe pvpers. It's not like it's a secret that Marmite are terrible at EVE. I'm surprised you still haven't noticed, being ex-afterbirth and all.

(I forgot how much fun this can be when you are on a rage.)

You claim it's was a merge as an excuse to get away from the fact that you was kicked from the corp. I know this better than you. Again, when you claims that you know more about what empire wars / empire PVP is than i and my alliance leaders knows, then i for sure knows more about your alliance than you knows about it.

You aren't any special types of god that knows more than everyone else. If you are a god this way, then what prevents me from being that to?

Ahh, that's right, you think you are some kind of a super hero in EVE that knows everything about EVE.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-07-31 16:59:24 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
I'm more important than you when it comes to this as i'm doing empire wars everyday, so i can speak highly about this. You on the other hands can only speak about 0.0 space.

Straight
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#38 - 2014-07-31 17:06:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Yay, rage walls. :D

NightmareX wrote:
This might be new to you, but i'm not complaining about the workaround i have to do, i'm complaining about the issues with the overview CCP haven't fixed yet. The more peoples that complains about it the bigger the chances is that they are going to fix it.

Yeah omg, CCP have to rewrite codes. Such a disaster. Ofc they have to do alot of rewriting in the code to fix alot of the issues. It's the same when CCP went from Python to the new system. They had to rewrite tons of new things to be able to fix many of the issues EVE had. So why can't they fix the issues with the overview (witch is a HUUUUUUGE part of the game btw) when they fix others issues with the game?
I know what you are complaining about and you can still shut your over entitled mouth. And LOL. Yes, they need to rewrite a lot of code. Maybe you should go and look at what makes up the core code to see why it's taken so long to get around to a POS revamp, and why they are still running a single threaded server architecture causing workaround like tidi to be implemented. It's because their codebase is huge and parts of it are incredibly old. The work it would take to rewrite what you think is just a simple bug may be thousands of manhours of work, which is simply not worth it for the 1 corp affected by the issue and unable to use the workaround.

NightmareX wrote:
I'm more important than you when it comes to this as i'm doing empire wars everyday, so i can speak highly about this. You on the other hands can only speak about 0.0 space.
My 12 highsec alts beg to differ. I spend more time logged on in highsec than null, and surprise surprise, I've even been involved in wars. In addition, I'm write code for a living.

NightmareX wrote:
No, the ferry was working earlier in the same way as the war targets in the overview was working as intended back in the days. So just because the ferry haven't worked for a long time (out of service), it means that they can't fix it to make it easier for travelers to get over to the place they are going to?
They can, but they weigh up the COST vs the BENEFIT. If it's not worth it, they don't do it. And mate, it's not worth it.

NightmareX wrote:
No, you know what massive blob PVP is while i know what ganking is. Is any of those things better than each others?
Nope, but then I know what actual PvP is, like many of the merc corps you hired to defend you from doc know. I don;t disagree that blob PvP is terrible PvP. So the CFC are terrible at PvP and Marmite are terrible at PvP. Glad we cleared that up.

NightmareX wrote:
You claim it's was a merge as an excuse to get away from the fact that you was kicked from the corp. I know this better than you. Again, when you claims that you know more about what empire wars / empire PVP is than i and my alliance leaders knows, then i for sure knows more about your alliance than you knows about it.
You can claim this as much as you want. Seriously, we've covered thsi before. Get it into you head kiddo, what you think is irrelevant to me. Anyone who's opinion matters to me would take one look and go "oh yeah, a merge" lol.

And no, I don;t know more than most and I don't know everything, I certainly know more than you though. An autistic ex-afterbirth member with delusions of grandeur is hardly a competitor.

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NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2014-07-31 17:20:38 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Yay, rage walls. :D

You don't even know what raging is. It's you that are raging over me here.

Lucas Kell wrote:
I know what you are complaining about and you can still shut your over entitled mouth. And LOL. Yes, they need to rewrite a lot of code. Maybe you should go and look at what makes up the core code to see why it's taken so long to get around to a POS revamp, and why they are still running a single threaded server architecture causing workaround like tidi to be implemented. It's because their codebase is huge and parts of it are incredibly old. The work it would take to rewrite what you think is just a simple bug may be thousands of manhours of work, which is simply not worth it for the 1 corp affected by the issue and unable to use the workaround.

Yes, they need to rewrite alot of code, but does that mean that they can use 10 years to fix it just because they used ages to fix the POS'es?

No, it's not acceptable. That's why it's important to create topics like this to speak out about this and get more and more to complain about those issues, as the more peoples who complains about it the bigger the chance is that they have to fix the issues faster. Just because they used to many years to fix the POS'es, does that mean they can use years to fix other issues to?

Lucas Kell wrote:
My 12 highsec alts beg to differ. I spend more time logged on in highsec than null, and surprise surprise, I've even been involved in wars. In addition, I'm write code for a living.

12 carebear alts. Don't forget that. You can't even provide evidences that you do active PVP in empire, so why should we listen to your rage here on something you clealy don't understand?

Yeah man, i have an alt in 0.0 space, so i know everything about 0.0 space now. This is all Martix all over it. Just press a button and BAAAAM, you can do everything.

Lucas Kell wrote:
They can, but they weigh up the COST vs the BENEFIT. If it's not worth it, they don't do it. And mate, it's not worth it.

That's your opinion, because you don't struggles with the overview issues as we struggles with everyday. So it's easy for you to say it's not important to fix it.

But i'm sorry to tell you this, but the overview is a massive part of the game for everyone, so it's extremely important that we have a working overview and not a half baked one. And for those who are affected by this, it's a HUUUUGE issue and it needs to be fixed asap.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Nope, but then I know what actual PvP is, like many of the merc corps you hired to defend you from doc know. I don;t disagree that blob PvP is terrible PvP. So the CFC are terrible at PvP and Marmite are terrible at PvP. Glad we cleared that up.

You didn't clear anything up bud, you just came with your opinion. Just because someone else war dec'ed 'doc know' at the same time as we was fighting him, does that means we hires everyone who war decs 'doc know' at the same time?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2014-07-31 17:23:17 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Lucas Kell wrote:
You can claim this as much as you want. Seriously, we've covered thsi before. Get it into you head kiddo, what you think is irrelevant to me. Anyone who's opinion matters to me would take one look and go "oh yeah, a merge" lol.

And no, I don;t know more than most and I don't know everything, I certainly know more than you though. An autistic ex-afterbirth member with delusions of grandeur is hardly a competitor.

Yeah, you can claim as much as you like to with your opinions. But it doesn't change the fact that i speaks much higher about empire PVP / empire wars than you ever will be able to do as i do it as my daily job in Marmite, while you are not doing any PVP at all as your killboard shows.

Just the fact alone that i'm ex-Rebirth says everyone that i speaks highly about empire PVP.

EDIT: And to add. The Rebirth 4 video that is in my signature even shows that we in Rebirth was far from just sitting in trade hubs and popping shuttles and haulers as most peoples said we did.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama