Player Features and Ideas Discussion

no the correct and proper way to make pve more engaging

is for the devs to have a solid content creation tool
rather than having to individually hand code every aspect of a pve instance

fully randomised, with scalable difficulty & rewards
it would of course still get repetative, but nowhere near as much as it does now

faction loot was removed from missions. were CCP right then?
CCP made incarna. were CCP right then?
CCP gave freighters rigs. were CCP right then?

i think you under estimate how many people run missions and how often they run them. and i think you over estimate the excitement of finding special loot.

this shiny equipment is only shiny because its expensive. your idea WILL change that. If it was just for the special badge it gets, why don't more ppl rat in belts? they frequently have faction spawns with faction drops or special rats that drop pricey sec status tags.

if your bored with hi-sec PvE content, try doing something other than PvE, or try doing PvE outside of hi-sec. shiny loot is not the answer, or is at best a temporary, market damaging answer.

Reworking how missions and rats work probably is the answer. it will take time, but it will be more interesting for far longer than this half baked idea.

So your argument is that because CCP was right about some stuff....YOU are right about something completely different?

I don't get what you're trying to say here.

Anyway, L4s don't need more loot. They need a complete reworking. Throwing a bandage on doesn't fix the underlying problem. There is no easy fix for htem, I'm afraid.

All of your answers are the same: fix missions properly!!

What if the CCP developers don't have time?? Because they are aware of the missions issue and have done nothing about it which indicates they don't have time.

To fix missions properly would require tons of new coding and routines to be re-written, tested and planned to a higher degree than what they currently have - this takes tons and tons of developing time so I can see why they are reluctant to do anything.

Perhaps CCP see the flaw in missions' longevity in players' interest figuring, when you get bored you will find something else more exciting to do.

The proposal of adding a few "Shinies" as someone put it, is a very, very, easy supplement to adding some extra merit to doing missions. The rarity of say 0.001% will IMO protect the market and CCP can always play around with that to adjust it accordingly.

It does not FIX missions - they will stay exactly the same. But it will ensure players always loot their wrecks rather than Blitz and do the next one. Isn't that why CCP came out with the remote Mobile Tractor Unit??

T2 drops would cut into invention/t2 production. CCP tends to here these voices. Its why after PI change pi items were dropped off the loot tables in time. PI was arguing it was unfair missions were dropping there items they make. One mission (forget the name).....structures dropped construction blocks. Little bit of isk saved there I miss from time to time as iirc it was quite a few blocks. Also why t1 loot was nerfed too (mix of t1 buidlers going why make them and the miners whining about said t1 loot refines).




Faction/ds is now in the realm of exploration (or lp) or faction spawns in 0.0. Also worth noting long ago CCP may have had this in place....but the % chance was slim as hell. WC iirc if you got really lucky and had patience could see a faction spawn show up once in a blue moon. At least I recall reading reports of a runners cleaning up the wrecks in WC and a faction spawn landed in the WC if deadspace was kept active (didn;t turn in the mission right away). Never saw this so can't confirm or deny so take with a grain of salt. report wast was on eve survival at some point and they tend to filter out the bs to some extent.

Want random rat ds drops...go to 0.0 basically. Don't get hopes up though...most of my faction spawns sucked tbh. Wish you and others better luck off if you do it.

Actually used the crap faction spawn drops on pvp ships only because not worth the effort to ship back to empire for sale and no one wanted them locally. Put another way...I didn't use them to be uber, I used them since nothing better to fit an no one else really want them. Got me some wtf is up with your fit chats in corp channels or forum. Did you you pay for that crap? Nah man...it was a drop and I said well run it till lost in a ship pop. The loot rng table for this....odds were definitely in the house's favor.