Market Discussions

Reprocessing changes, that's why.

I think.

I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat for a moment and suggest that the recent market crashes were intentional, in order to cover up just how dire the reduced loot prices post-Crius are going to be.

It's an adaptation of a tactic that you'll see in the retail industry. Lets say a company that manufactures chocolate bars wants to reduce the size of one of their products, yet keep it at the same price. Obviously customers won't be too happy that their favourite chocolate bar is now smaller, but still costs just as much. So the company puts the new, smaller chocolate bar on special offer for a couple of months, and the customers, blinded by this lower price, are happy to buy it. After the special offer is discontinued and the customers have long forgotten the original price and/or size of the bar, they put the prices back up to "normal" and their goal of having a smaller chocolate bar at the same price is achieved.

What I believe CCP have done is reduce the value of loot across the board, which many players will be unhappy with, and then orchestrated a market crash to drive those prices even lower. In a week or two, when the market has recovered, the loot prices will rise again (which will make players happy) but will still be much lower than they were pre-Crius.

I will now take off my tinfoil hat and bask in the buzz of the signals.

Was wondering that myself as well. New processing mechanics might be a factor in the module market indeed.

But also prices on almost all moon materials (including intermediates and end products) are down a lot as well. I know some moons were added, but that amount of moons seems insignificant compared to the ones that were already there. Especially if you consider that a lot of (old or new) moons are inprofitable to mine anyway.

Maybe this is coming from the demand side? Is Eve losing active players at a high pace, leading to less demand? Or are people pissed off with the industry changes or what?

well t2-module margins are diving fast, thanks new industry (thats a good sign for the game, bad for newer industrialists) we deBrabant are alwys happy to bring you best quality product with lowest possible price

Marketts just go up if you ask me...

Ouch. No, not on my list at all. T2 only.

However, if one holds onto them until the module re-balancing, might get lucky... or maybe not.

Even the meta 4 plates had their price driven by reprocessing value, not usefulness on ships.

They do see some use, but T2 ones are better in many (not all) situations, and the meta 4 ones are in enormous supply.

In Eve's environment of near perfect competition, how is this different from any other day?

One of my buy order characters slipped the net and had 1600mm and 800mm orders left up. They were cheap (pre-patch) so I only lost about 100m. Still embarrassing though just a drop in the bucket.

But everything else was considerably up. Actually, T2 jumped a bit higher than I was expecting - maybe people aren't accounting for ease of use impact yet. Or maybe I'm just wrong.

The mineral value of all things meta has dropped 45-50% due to reprocessing skill changes. Because the mineral value is now lower, more players will be selling to market, thus increasing supply, and probably further reducing prices. But cheap meta 4 modules will get more inventors and buys purchasing. So perhaps that will be a net neutral change.

Market should stabilize soon.