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I always read how Hi-sec has been buffed.

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Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#141 - 2014-07-28 12:23:19 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Tennej wrote:
So I am reading the forums and somebody will complain about a hisec nerf and many people will rebutt that nerf with the statement "of look at all the hisec buffs". I'm blind I guess because I cant see them.

As an experiment I pretended to be a new player looking for something to make isk on.

Attempt: First I tried ninja salvaging.... It used to make me alot of isk.

Result: New AI switched immediately to my little punisher salvager everytime I entered a mission bear's site. I tried a few times as well and the new AI protected the mission bear from any damage I could do.

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: Go sit on some static 1/10 Plexs and hopefully spawn a c-type repper or something.

Result: Open up starmap and cant find any 1/10's. After Googling "Where are 1/10's" the result was that `1/10-'s are no longer static and must be scanned down. WTH....

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: OK if they want me to scan so I'll scan down some rare rock sites and go mine them. Maybe I'll get lucky and score a Large Jaspet or something. Can't find any and have been to like 10 systems. Back to google.....

Result: These are now anomalies like null ratting sites. Setting the scanner to show anoms brings them up. Unfortunately they get mined out super fast. I visited 3 and no rocks of value left in any. I guess this is something you do only right after downtime.

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: Regular Ice mining. Ok I already heard they made the Ice sites anoms and they spawn now every 4 hours. I grab a procurer and start hunting down some ice. Visit 3 systems I know used to have ice and nothing. Damn this is turning into alot of jumps.... Time to Open Dotlan. Visit 2 more systems again no ICE..... I give up.

Result: No ICE to be found and I've jumped around quite a bit.....not worth anymore effort.

Conclusion: Nerf



Attempt: I'm already in a minery ship might as well mine. Run to my favorite System with no starbases in it and go to a safe and drop a few giant freights to fill up.

Result: Evidently, I'm too late. The neighborhood ISboxers (GeewingCheong or Kamikaze or LTC Vuvicovich) Have ransacked the system again. Either all the belts are gone or healing with tiny rocks. I mine a few of the healing belts but give up since the output is ridiculous. I gotta start thinking about setting an alarm clock and doing this right after DT.

Conclusion: Meh not a Nerf or Buff.... basically just sucks.




Attempt: I got a Harby.... lets go do some lvl 3 missions. The ship bounties arent great but its something to do and the salvage can net some good isk.

Result: Man these MTU's are a boon for salvaging. They pull everything in and I got a destroyer with 8 salvagers. Missions are easy with a Harbinger. Making a little bit of isk. After about 2 storylines I'm getting sleepy. Lets collect up all the salvage and call it. So evidently there are no more drone alloys or Meta 0 modules in salvage. That sucks. Used to be good minerals in that.

Conclusion: Buff and Nerf and another Nerf. MTU is crazy great so is a nice Buff. Loss of drone alloys and meta 0 Modules suck alot. Refine nerf on modules is really felt here.





To tired to do any scanning but evidently its supposed to be easier and more interesting. I'll try that at a later date.




Maybe as a new player I'm doing it wrong but I dont see all these Buffs that everybody is talking about. Just a lot of nerfs. Kinda glad I didnt subscribe and still on a trial account. Game doesnt seem to have much going for it.





Discuss


What you are seeing is the result the lack of rule enforcement by CCP themeselves. Instead of actually giving decent new content they keep rolling the same crap out to make the whiners stop whining.

They "buffed" the mining ship. They called it a rebalance but the reality is CCP just wnated the bot miners to stop complaining. The reality is if CCP enforced their own rules the issue would have been fixed. They cant enforce their own rules because then subs will go down and then they would actually have to pay attention to it.

For example: CCP declared ISBoxer legit. Now you have miners like the one you post but you also have incursion runners various other types of players using it. To use it you need more than 1 account on the same computer which is actually against CCP own End User License agreement
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula/
Under License:
"you have 2 Accounts, you must have 2 licensed copies of the Software. You may not use more than one Account with a single licensed copy of the Software. You may make one (1) copy of the Software for backup or archival purposes."

The trolls will rebuttal with installing the software in different folders. That violates the first part of the agreement:
"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose. "

CCP will never enforce their own agreements unless it they feel it nessacery. Less people subbing and more people leaving means they have to rely on plexed accounts to make any money. Those are the people they will listen to and not to you or me. The person with most alts wins.


Think you have confused legit Multiboxers with multiple accounts with ISboxers with dozens.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#142 - 2014-07-28 12:29:37 UTC
Tennej wrote:
So I am reading the forums and somebody will complain about a hisec nerf and many people will rebutt that nerf with the statement "of look at all the hisec buffs". I'm blind I guess because I cant see them.

As an experiment I pretended to be a new player looking for something to make isk on.

Attempt: First I tried ninja salvaging.... It used to make me alot of isk.

Result: New AI switched immediately to my little punisher salvager everytime I entered a mission bear's site. I tried a few times as well and the new AI protected the mission bear from any damage I could do.

Conclusion: Nerf


So you tried to do someting in 2014 using 2009 tactics and itr didn't work, so you think that's a nerf.

I guess you never heard of bookmarks, you know,n book mark a wreck and warp off, come back when the mission runner clears the room.

Conclusion: lazy



Quote:

Attempt: Go sit on some static 1/10 Plexs and hopefully spawn a c-type repper or something.

Result: Open up starmap and cant find any 1/10's. After Googling "Where are 1/10's" the result was that `1/10-'s are no longer static and must be scanned down. WTH....

Conclusion: Nerf


You can't call something a nerf when CCP fixes an (at the time) 8 year old game mechanic that was meant for NEW players but that was being abused by veterans.

The result of CCP moving low end DEDs to exploration is that vets don't bother with them (they only did at 1st because they were static). NOW new players have content that can go find.

Conclusion: You're delusional



Quote:

Attempt: OK if they want me to scan so I'll scan down some rare rock sites and go mine them. Maybe I'll get lucky and score a Large Jaspet or something. Can't find any and have been to like 10 systems. Back to google.....

Result: These are now anomalies like null ratting sites. Setting the scanner to show anoms brings them up. Unfortunately they get mined out super fast. I visited 3 and no rocks of value left in any. I guess this is something you do only right after downtime.

Conclusion: Nerf


You just complained about having to scan something down, now you complain becuase you DON'T have to scan something down?

Conclusion: Bi-polar



Quote:

Attempt: Regular Ice mining. Ok I already heard they made the Ice sites anoms and they spawn now every 4 hours. I grab a procurer and start hunting down some ice. Visit 3 systems I know used to have ice and nothing. Damn this is turning into alot of jumps.... Time to Open Dotlan. Visit 2 more systems again no ICE..... I give up.

Result: No ICE to be found and I've jumped around quite a bit.....not worth anymore effort.

Conclusion: Nerf


lol, as suspected, any wiff of compettion is considered a nerf by high sec pilots.

Conclusion:GBTWoW


Quote:

Attempt: I'm already in a minery ship might as well mine. Run to my favorite System with no starbases in it and go to a safe and drop a few giant freights to fill up.

Result: Evidently, I'm too late. The neighborhood ISboxers (GeewingCheong or Kamikaze or LTC Vuvicovich) Have ransacked the system again. Either all the belts are gone or healing with tiny rocks. I mine a few of the healing belts but give up since the output is ridiculous. I gotta start thinking about setting an alarm clock and doing this right after DT.

Conclusion: Meh not a Nerf or Buff.... basically just sucks.




Attempt: I got a Harby.... lets go do some lvl 3 missions. The ship bounties arent great but its something to do and the salvage can net some good isk.

Result: Man these MTU's are a boon for salvaging. They pull everything in and I got a destroyer with 8 salvagers. Missions are easy with a Harbinger. Making a little bit of isk. After about 2 storylines I'm getting sleepy. Lets collect up all the salvage and call it. So evidently there are no more drone alloys or Meta 0 modules in salvage. That sucks. Used to be good minerals in that.

Conclusion: Buff and Nerf and another Nerf. MTU is crazy great so is a nice Buff. Loss of drone alloys and meta 0 Modules suck alot. Refine nerf on modules is really felt here.





To tired to do any scanning but evidently its supposed to be easier and more interesting. I'll try that at a later date.




Maybe as a new player I'm doing it wrong but I dont see all these Buffs that everybody is talking about. Just a lot of nerfs. Kinda glad I didnt subscribe and still on a trial account. Game doesnt seem to have much going for it.





Discuss


New player? if you're new, how do you know about meta 0 modules and drone alloys?
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#143 - 2014-07-28 12:35:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Intar Medris wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Tennej wrote:
So I am reading the forums and somebody will complain about a hisec nerf and many people will rebutt that nerf with the statement "of look at all the hisec buffs". I'm blind I guess because I cant see them.

As an experiment I pretended to be a new player looking for something to make isk on.

Attempt: First I tried ninja salvaging.... It used to make me alot of isk.

Result: New AI switched immediately to my little punisher salvager everytime I entered a mission bear's site. I tried a few times as well and the new AI protected the mission bear from any damage I could do.

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: Go sit on some static 1/10 Plexs and hopefully spawn a c-type repper or something.

Result: Open up starmap and cant find any 1/10's. After Googling "Where are 1/10's" the result was that `1/10-'s are no longer static and must be scanned down. WTH....

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: OK if they want me to scan so I'll scan down some rare rock sites and go mine them. Maybe I'll get lucky and score a Large Jaspet or something. Can't find any and have been to like 10 systems. Back to google.....

Result: These are now anomalies like null ratting sites. Setting the scanner to show anoms brings them up. Unfortunately they get mined out super fast. I visited 3 and no rocks of value left in any. I guess this is something you do only right after downtime.

Conclusion: Nerf




Attempt: Regular Ice mining. Ok I already heard they made the Ice sites anoms and they spawn now every 4 hours. I grab a procurer and start hunting down some ice. Visit 3 systems I know used to have ice and nothing. Damn this is turning into alot of jumps.... Time to Open Dotlan. Visit 2 more systems again no ICE..... I give up.

Result: No ICE to be found and I've jumped around quite a bit.....not worth anymore effort.

Conclusion: Nerf



Attempt: I'm already in a minery ship might as well mine. Run to my favorite System with no starbases in it and go to a safe and drop a few giant freights to fill up.

Result: Evidently, I'm too late. The neighborhood ISboxers (GeewingCheong or Kamikaze or LTC Vuvicovich) Have ransacked the system again. Either all the belts are gone or healing with tiny rocks. I mine a few of the healing belts but give up since the output is ridiculous. I gotta start thinking about setting an alarm clock and doing this right after DT.

Conclusion: Meh not a Nerf or Buff.... basically just sucks.




Attempt: I got a Harby.... lets go do some lvl 3 missions. The ship bounties arent great but its something to do and the salvage can net some good isk.

Result: Man these MTU's are a boon for salvaging. They pull everything in and I got a destroyer with 8 salvagers. Missions are easy with a Harbinger. Making a little bit of isk. After about 2 storylines I'm getting sleepy. Lets collect up all the salvage and call it. So evidently there are no more drone alloys or Meta 0 modules in salvage. That sucks. Used to be good minerals in that.

Conclusion: Buff and Nerf and another Nerf. MTU is crazy great so is a nice Buff. Loss of drone alloys and meta 0 Modules suck alot. Refine nerf on modules is really felt here.





To tired to do any scanning but evidently its supposed to be easier and more interesting. I'll try that at a later date.




Maybe as a new player I'm doing it wrong but I dont see all these Buffs that everybody is talking about. Just a lot of nerfs. Kinda glad I didnt subscribe and still on a trial account. Game doesnt seem to have much going for it.





Discuss


What you are seeing is the result the lack of rule enforcement by CCP themeselves. Instead of actually giving decent new content they keep rolling the same crap out to make the whiners stop whining.

They "buffed" the mining ship. They called it a rebalance but the reality is CCP just wnated the bot miners to stop complaining. The reality is if CCP enforced their own rules the issue would have been fixed. They cant enforce their own rules because then subs will go down and then they would actually have to pay attention to it.

For example: CCP declared ISBoxer legit. Now you have miners like the one you post but you also have incursion runners various other types of players using it. To use it you need more than 1 account on the same computer which is actually against CCP own End User License agreement
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula/
Under License:
"you have 2 Accounts, you must have 2 licensed copies of the Software. You may not use more than one Account with a single licensed copy of the Software. You may make one (1) copy of the Software for backup or archival purposes."

The trolls will rebuttal with installing the software in different folders. That violates the first part of the agreement:
"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose. "

CCP will never enforce their own agreements unless it they feel it nessacery. Less people subbing and more people leaving means they have to rely on plexed accounts to make any money. Those are the people they will listen to and not to you or me. The person with most alts wins.


Think you have confused legit Multiboxers with multiple accounts with ISboxers with dozens.


Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing which is legit.

ISBoxer on ther other hand is what I posted about. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#144 - 2014-07-28 12:38:54 UTC
Went upstairs for some coffee and all the sudden more input. Thanks for the insight guys.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet

Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#145 - 2014-07-28 12:41:39 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.


"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

Can this be made any clearer than it is?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#146 - 2014-07-28 12:44:47 UTC
Welllllllllllll it could. The language makes it sound like you have to install a separate copy for each account that you want to log in on concurrently. There's no reason, of course, that this should be necessary. It's also rather excessive.

Also innerspace allows input from one computer across multiple computers, so that doesn't really solve that problem that doesn't exist to begin with anyway.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#147 - 2014-07-28 12:45:32 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.


"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

Can this be made any clearer than it is?


You can make it as clear as you want, CCP sure has over and over and over again. The people who don't like it (in this case ISBoxer, but really just anything they don't like) will always cry foul about it no matter what you (or CCP ) says on the matter.

It must be nice to have the entire world revolve around one's self like these "isboxer is illegal despite CCP telling us it's legal in CCPs game" types have it lol.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2014-07-28 12:45:48 UTC
so wait, this is a stealth "zomg ISboxer!" thread?

Bravo.

Bravo.


*golf clap*

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#149 - 2014-07-28 12:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tennej
New player? if you're new, how do you know about meta 0 modules and drone alloys?



FFS here we go again.... Pretending I was a new player and did the things I used to do when I actually was.... sorry for the confusion.

Name calling and insults..... make your damn point without it otherwise I just quit reading your post even if its actually worth reading.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet

Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#150 - 2014-07-28 12:48:13 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
so wait, this is a stealth "zomg ISboxer!" thread?

Bravo.

Bravo.


*golf clap*


Can we has a threadnaught? Last one died about 3 weeks ago and I the rash from having to explain the simplest things to idiots has gone away already.

I like the rash, it's so nicely colored and feels rough.

I call her Jenna.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2014-07-28 12:49:06 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
so wait, this is a stealth "zomg ISboxer!" thread?

Bravo.

Bravo.


*golf clap*


Can we has a threadnaught? Last one died about 3 weeks ago and I the rash from having to explain the simplest things to idiots has gone away already.

I like the rash, it's so nicely colored and feels rough.

I call her Jenna.

Lol

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#152 - 2014-07-28 12:49:11 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
so wait, this is a stealth "zomg ISboxer!" thread?

Bravo.

Bravo.


*golf clap*



Not completely sure what the "ISBOXER is legal vs not legal" tangent is all about but seems like good reading.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet

Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#153 - 2014-07-28 12:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.


"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

Can this be made any clearer than it is?


I edited my post because apparently your not following. Multiple account on the same machine is the issue because that is how isboxer works. Have multiple computers is not an issue.

I doubt the guy mining a belt with 10-20 accounts has 10-20 computers all hooked up to the internet. The bandwidth required for just 5 machines would kill his connection or create such lag that the game is unplayable. Let alone trying to remember what keyboard goes to what screen or mouse even.

"You may not use more than one Account with a single licensed copy of the Software." does it get any clearer than that?

I guess picking and choosing rules to follow or enforce is allowed.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#154 - 2014-07-28 12:51:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Adrie Atticus
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.


"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

Can this be made any clearer than it is?


I edited my post because apparently your not following. Multiple account on the same machine is the issue because that is how isboxer works. Have multiple computers is not an issue.

I doubt the guy mining a belt with 10-20 accounts has 10-20 computers all hooked up to the internet. The bandwidth required for just 5 machines would kill his connection or create such lag that the game is unplayable. Let alone trying to remember what keyboard goes to what screen or mouse even.


Apologies, let me re-highlight the part which you cannot seem to understand:

"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

This means that if you have 20 valid accounts (being an active subscription and not suspended/terminated) you are allowed to install and/or run 20 copies of the software (EvE Online game client) and have one extra copy of the software as a backup.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#155 - 2014-07-28 12:52:08 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
I edited my post because apparently your not following. Multiple account on the same machine is the issue because that is how isboxer works. Have multiple computers is not an issue.

http://www.lavishsoft.com/
Quote:
Inner Space links your game instances together, making it possible to send commands (you know, like keystrokes!) from one window to another, even on different computers!

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#156 - 2014-07-28 12:52:58 UTC
Tennej wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Not a very good troll, yeah.


Discuss topic please not troll this or troll that.


I did something similar about 6-9 months ago with my "pretend to be a noob" experiment where basicly you re-enter the game after giving all your money and assets away.

It was.. interesting that's for sure. To give a brief conclusion of it I think that without at least 500k starting capital if your account got ransacked (or you gave it all away and literally have no friends) you won't go very far. The noobship challenge only worked in the end because of getting a probe launcher, stealing a bunch of L4 1600mm plates and then getting about 7 lucky anom DG spawns in a row which gave me about 50 mil and in brief without such a streak of luck the game feels virtually unplayable especially if you've done it all before.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#157 - 2014-07-28 12:55:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.


"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

Can this be made any clearer than it is?


I edited my post because apparently your not following. Multiple account on the same machine is the issue because that is how isboxer works. Have multiple computers is not an issue.

I doubt the guy mining a belt with 10-20 accounts has 10-20 computers all hooked up to the internet. The bandwidth required for just 5 machines would kill his connection or create such lag that the game is unplayable. Let alone trying to remember what keyboard goes to what screen or mouse even.


Apologies, let me re-highlight the part which you cannot seem to understand:

"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

This means that if you have 20 valid accounts (being an active subscription and not suspended/terminated) you are allowed to install and/or run 20 copies of the software (EvE Online game client) and have one extra copy of the software as a backup.


You may not use more than one Account with a single licensed copy of the Software." here i did the same for you.

Means for each of your 20 accounts you need a seprate computer.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2014-07-28 12:56:18 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.


"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

Can this be made any clearer than it is?


I edited my post because apparently your not following. Multiple account on the same machine is the issue because that is how isboxer works. Have multiple computers is not an issue.

I doubt the guy mining a belt with 10-20 accounts has 10-20 computers all hooked up to the internet. The bandwidth required for just 5 machines would kill his connection or create such lag that the game is unplayable. Let alone trying to remember what keyboard goes to what screen or mouse even.


Apologies, let me re-highlight the part which you cannot seem to understand:

"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

This means that if you have 20 valid accounts (being an active subscription and not suspended/terminated) you are allowed to install and/or run 20 copies of the software (EvE Online game client) and have one extra copy of the software as a backup.


]You may not use more than one Account with a single licensed copy of the Software." here i did the same for you.

so? where does in there it stops of me having 20 copies of the software?

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#159 - 2014-07-28 12:57:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Adrie Atticus
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Nope.
Multi boxing is having more than one computer.... hence the box in boxing. Just because CCP is not inclined to shoot themeselves in the foot doesnt make it any more legit. CCP is pretty good at selective enforcement.


"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

Can this be made any clearer than it is?


I edited my post because apparently your not following. Multiple account on the same machine is the issue because that is how isboxer works. Have multiple computers is not an issue.

I doubt the guy mining a belt with 10-20 accounts has 10-20 computers all hooked up to the internet. The bandwidth required for just 5 machines would kill his connection or create such lag that the game is unplayable. Let alone trying to remember what keyboard goes to what screen or mouse even.


Apologies, let me re-highlight the part which you cannot seem to understand:

"For each valid Account you maintain, you may install a copy of the Software on, and access the System from, a single computer or Game platform, and from a secondary computer if you so choose."

This means that if you have 20 valid accounts (being an active subscription and not suspended/terminated) you are allowed to install and/or run 20 copies of the software (EvE Online game client) and have one extra copy of the software as a backup.


You may not use more than one Account with a single licensed copy of the Software." here i did the same for you.


Install 20 clients. How the hell is this passage so complicated that it takes multiple forum posts to understand?

Edit: I even stated "install" on the post you quoted.
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
#160 - 2014-07-28 13:01:02 UTC


Install 20 clients. How the hell is this passage so complicated that it takes multiple forum posts to understand?

Edit: I even stated "install" on the post you quoted


Look cat some folks get on here just to argue...not make sense..... been that way all night.

You Miners think you have it so damn tough.  When I first started playing we didnt even have mining lasers.  You had to fly close to an asteroid.....pop a hatch and gnaw at it with your teeth.   - Bitter Vet