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[I-RED] "Project Dustbowl" DECLASSIFIED

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Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#21 - 2014-07-27 16:28:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Laurentis Thiesant
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Ishuk-Raata Department of Records & Information
Article 67, 7.12.116

Special Release Memorandum: The following is a special abridged report transcribed for IGS release. The original report remains strictly 'Confidential' under Ishuk-Raata Proprietary Records and Information Protection Policy. Unauthorized disclosure of protected information and/or records whether willfully or otherwise remains a serious violation of Directive policy and will result in punitive action. Full details on Project Dustbowl are NOT available to the general public and will not be expounded upon without explicit security clearance except under certified written permission from the Executor, Vice-Executor, or Directors of Public Relations.


I'm requesting access to the full report as compiled by I-RED in relation to this issue to assist our humanitarian efforts in the aftermath of this crisis.

I'm happy to discuss the conditions of this with any among the alliance leadership. It's time to repair the damage that has been done. Captain Oniseki-Charantes, you may be a capsuleer, and this thing may be expected, but you're also human. Show some respect to the memory of your fellow men and women and lets try and make what good we can from this dishonorable misstep in corporate policy.

Full disclosure is the first step.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#22 - 2014-07-27 16:35:12 UTC
Access denied. Oh, and, stay out of Syndicate for the safety of yourself and crew.

There is no crisis. There is only progress.

Katrina Oniseki

Laurentis Thiesant
Institute of Social Development
#23 - 2014-07-27 16:36:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Laurentis Thiesant
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Access denied.

That's encouraging.

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Oh, and, stay out of Syndicate for the safety of yourself and crew.

Real encouraging.

If only you had such concern for the innocent lives your thugs took.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#24 - 2014-07-27 16:53:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Laurentis Thiesant wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Access denied.


That's encouraging.


I am not here encourage the whims of pompous Federal politicians. I am here to get jobs done. We came to Syndicate to better the lives of those people down there. We have poured more money into those planets than you have ever seen on your wildest dreams. While you sat in Intaki whining about a tiny siphon on your drug lab, I was finishing up the reports on a three year campaign to provide much more than an hourly job at an undefended narcotics plant to the unfortunate.

That some lowlife thugs decided to step in my way and I got rid of them is part of the package. If you cannot accept that sometimes, the good of the collective comes before the rights of the individual, you are unfit for your capsule. Yet I doubt that you are so naive. You don't give a damn about those people. Until I made this thread, you didn't even know they existed. You never cared to look in the dark corners of the cluster. You never wanted to, afraid of what you might find. Afraid that the real world isn't what you thought it was, that shaking hands and kissing babies doesn't actually help anybody.

So keep mewling about those poor orphans, Thiesant. Keep crying about how bad they have it now that the drug dealers are gone, now that the protection rackets are gone, now that they don't have to get their drinking water from a waterhole thick with parasites. Keep telling me how horrible we are for spending blood money on building up the lives of a people left to die alone.

Keep talking.

Katrina Oniseki

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#25 - 2014-07-27 17:00:18 UTC
Laurentis Thiesant wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Access denied.

That's encouraging.

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Oh, and, stay out of Syndicate for the safety of yourself and crew.

Real encouraging.

If only you had such concern for the innocent lives your thugs took.

Uhh, I "sterilize" people all the time. If you're going to play "defender of the meek", you are playing against 99% of the capusleers out there. Not a good place to put yourself.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#26 - 2014-07-27 18:20:25 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:

That some lowlife thugs decided to step in my way and I got rid of them is part of the package…. You don't give a damn about those people. Until I made this thread, you didn't even know they existed. You never cared to look in the dark corners of the cluster.


Interesting…

Thank you for bring this to our attention.

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#27 - 2014-07-27 20:59:18 UTC
Congratulations on improving the quality of life in the Syndicate and upgrading the planetary markets & populations to allow for sustainable long term contracts.

For the people mewling about the sterilized colony, ask about more details before going into the offensive. As it was explained it was under heavy serpentis influence, so it likely was a Serpentis Colony. With that in mind, it underwent the same fate as so many space-born Serpentis estabilishments, they get removed.
However, Katrina did clarify in a later post that the population got captured and/or relocated. With this announcement in mind, I like to extend my help to assist those civilians who were press-ganged by the Serpentis into forced labor by them. The Aurora Project has previous experience with assisting such people in the past, as shown in this article: Helping Serpentis Civilians

Also for the Federation folks who find this an atrocity, please sweep your own door clean, I recently did a report on what happens to caldari that fall in the hands of the Black Eagles: Caldari rescued from Black Eagle prison camps!
So if you truly care about all those poor civilians who got unjustly treated, perhaps take a look at the Black Eagles first.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-07-27 21:44:43 UTC
For the sake of not muddying I-RED's thread up, I'll keep this brief and suggest that further discussion may merit a thread of its own:

Without a good deal more information on the matter Ms. Ymladris, I can't really take a stance on the alleged Black Eagle camp and the prisoners you found. With that said...
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
If you cannot accept that sometimes, the good of the collective comes before the rights of the individual, you are unfit for your capsule.

If I were a Black Eagle, that is the rationalization I would likely tender to you.

Very Caldari-minded, that group is. A notion that strikes me as rather ironic.
Calairis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-07-27 22:19:02 UTC
Bryen Verrisai wrote:
Very Caldari-minded, that group is. A notion that strikes me as rather ironic.

It's no stretch to say that the Senate and the the CEP are looking more and more alike with each passing election.
Janisa Ad-Drelana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-07-27 22:34:13 UTC
To bring the topic back on hand.
Congratulations on your venture, it appears to have been a resounding success.
This ill informed sniping benefits no one.

Go with grace.
DeadRow
Blue Canary
Watch This
#31 - 2014-07-27 22:35:59 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Access denied. Oh, and, stay out of Syndicate for the safety of yourself and crew.



I guess a limpwristed threat always helps helps reinforce your point!

And interesting read never-the-less, Oniseki.

~Hikari
Vincent Pryce
Blue Canary
Watch This
#32 - 2014-07-28 06:05:17 UTC
An interesting read, miss Oniseki. Most interesting indeed. I applaud you and yours on being able to make this project happen in the face of adversity. I look forward to hearing how the project moves on without direct I-RED involvement.

"From your Curse we made Heaven for ourselves."

Domination Seraphim

Cartel approved, Heaven blessed

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2014-07-28 06:48:00 UTC
Calairis wrote:
Bryen Verrisai wrote:
Very Caldari-minded, that group is. A notion that strikes me as rather ironic.

It's no stretch to say that the Senate and the the CEP are looking more and more alike with each passing election.


They always were. Ours are just a little more answerable to us, as stockholders, that's all.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#34 - 2014-07-28 11:00:53 UTC
Illustrious project.
Not really surprised to see some simpleminded outrage at the hint of what happens when reality interferes with noble plans, both because it's offering that sweet feeling of vindication and because this is the IGS and it's the reason we all come here.

Don't mind him, though, he's doing this as his job, it's probably not even his own opinion.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#35 - 2014-07-28 16:57:25 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
Illustrious project.
Not really surprised to see some simpleminded outrage at the hint of what happens when reality interferes with noble plans, both because it's offering that sweet feeling of vindication and because this is the IGS and it's the reason we all come here.

Don't mind him, though, he's doing this as his job, it's probably not even his own opinion.

I would like to take this opportunity to say that some of us Gallente are a bit more pragmatic then that. So before it devolves into racism, he doesn't speak for all of us.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2014-07-29 18:16:43 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
the inclusion of religious proselytizing as part of the programme. It was shown early on that the populations of the selected colonies were both aimless and self-centered, unwilling to grasp the concepts of collective good and focus their efforts on improving life. Research had also shown during out Intaki campaign that 'free populations' unbound to any other commitment but themselves are easily swayed by zeal and faith. Thus, we found contract with varying Amarr-aligned groups to bring the Faith to Syndicate.

The resulting effects of religious conversion showed a marked change for better OR worse, depending on the colony. Colony FT-9715 reacted violently within two weeks and was summarily excised from the program. Colony DD-8153 tripled its concurrent workload on its own and finished the entire project seven months ahead of schedule. Most remaining colonies remained marginally affected, with a trend towards improvement. .


I-Red is to be commended for recognizing the value of structured spirituality to an Ordered, Community-Centered and Productive Society.

I join in Director Mithra's sentiments with respect to this worthy initiative.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2014-07-29 20:22:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:

I-Red is to be commended for recognizing the value of structured spirituality to an Ordered, Community-Centered and Productive Society.


I agree, I'm just surprised they didn't choose Wayism as the religion to be exported. Perhaps the fact that it isn't really a proselyting faith is at the heart of the decision.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#38 - 2014-07-30 00:34:01 UTC
Precisely, Tuulinen, but also keep in mind that Wayism is not a product to be exported. It is neither something I personally care to share with foreigners. It was mostly a personal decision not to risk insulting my own faith by trying to convert a bunch of outsiders to it.

Besides, Wayism is less efficient as a behavioral modifier when applied outside of existing Caldari culture. The Amarr faith has a proven track record of adjusting the behavioral patterns of entire civilizations simply by its introduction, even without force of arms. When considered as a method of population control, Amarr is easily the more practical choice.

Katrina Oniseki

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2014-07-30 04:36:31 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Precisely, Tuulinen, but also keep in mind that Wayism is not a product to be exported. It is neither something I personally care to share with foreigners. It was mostly a personal decision not to risk insulting my own faith by trying to convert a bunch of outsiders to it.

Besides, Wayism is less efficient as a behavioral modifier when applied outside of existing Caldari culture. The Amarr faith has a proven track record of adjusting the behavioral patterns of entire civilizations simply by its introduction, even without force of arms. When considered as a method of population control, Amarr is easily the more practical choice.


Well, it isn't the product I'd buy, personally, but we should consider the audience we're selling to, I suppose.

I thought that might be your reasoning and I can't really find fault with it.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#40 - 2014-07-30 06:16:56 UTC
So it turns out a little Caldari pragmatism can make even the Empire's dodderings useful. That's both scary and reassuring.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.