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Rezan Tepet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-08-20 17:10:24 UTC
It's EVE fanfiction, as acted out by real players. It's like LARPing with Laz0rz, only the LARP is RPing an already virtual universe, which makes it...LARPception.

But seriously, ask 400 capsuleers in Tranq if they want to come to this. You'll get a bunch of "mehs," a bunch of "I can't finance that" from the rookies, and everyone else will be planning on hotdropping it for KMs, or have the lot of you forgotten that this is EVE? The only way an event like this is possible is on sisi.

Props to the guys running this.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#22 - 2014-08-20 17:52:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Rezan Tepet wrote:
It's EVE fanfiction, as acted out by real players. It's like LARPing with Laz0rz, only the LARP is RPing an already virtual universe, which makes it...LARPception.

But seriously, ask 400 capsuleers in Tranq if they want to come to this. You'll get a bunch of "mehs," a bunch of "I can't finance that" from the rookies, and everyone else will be planning on hotdropping it for KMs, or have the lot of you forgotten that this is EVE? The only way an event like this is possible is on sisi.

Props to the guys running this.



Meh Online.

There's one prominent filter. It's a certain mentality. Anything that does not pass the muster of "will this put more ISK in my wallet ? / more green on my killboard?". If the answer is no, then it's railed against, posted against, the monument gets shot over it. Nope it's all about min-maxer ISK/stats obsession and people who actually want to play a game are driven out (or driven to the test server in this case).

To think of the content we could have had instead of ISK faucets and gank pipelines/BLOPs.


Yes have this on TQ and people will be there just to prevent others from playing the game. CODE. is not the fanatical religion we should be worried about, it seems, as there is something worse and it's root is meta to "playing the game".

Meh.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-08-20 17:52:47 UTC
Riela Tanal wrote:
Not quite why we do it on sisi instead of Tranq, it would simply be impossible to finance the ships needed to supply for the players to shoot each other in the face and the prizes on top of that.

Noted. Good on you guys for going ahead with this. Will streams be available?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#24 - 2014-08-20 17:59:28 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Rezan Tepet wrote:
It's EVE fanfiction, as acted out by real players. It's like LARPing with Laz0rz, only the LARP is RPing an already virtual universe, which makes it...LARPception.

But seriously, ask 400 capsuleers in Tranq if they want to come to this. You'll get a bunch of "mehs," a bunch of "I can't finance that" from the rookies, and everyone else will be planning on hotdropping it for KMs, or have the lot of you forgotten that this is EVE? The only way an event like this is possible is on sisi.

Props to the guys running this.



Meh Online.

There's one prominent filter. It's a certain mentality. Anything that does not pass the muster of "will this put more ISK in my wallet ? / more green on my killboard?". If the answer is no, then it's railed against, posted against, the monument gets shot over it. Nope it's all about min-maxer ISK/stats obsession and people who actually want to play a game are driven out (or driven to the test server in this case).

To think of the content we could have had instead of ISK faucets and gank pipelines/BLOPs.


Yes have this on TQ and people will be there just to prevent others from playing the game. CODE. is not the fanatical religion we should be worried about, it seems, as there is something worse and it's root is meta to "playing the game".

Meh.


You're basically saying "man, this game would be great if human being would stop being all human and ****" lol.
Riela Tanal
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-08-20 18:01:42 UTC
We streamed it but unfortunately there is no commentary, we decided to focus on the other aspects but it will be there next time.


http://www.twitch.tv/damongant/b/556284661 - This is the streamed view of the Brave Newbie group

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQUrr4g-t7s - A lone wolf perspective


This was done by someone who made it into the Top 5. He hasn't uploaded part 3 yet I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxsECl6KpaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSs92d4EV2I


Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#26 - 2014-08-20 18:12:27 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Rezan Tepet wrote:
It's EVE fanfiction, as acted out by real players. It's like LARPing with Laz0rz, only the LARP is RPing an already virtual universe, which makes it...LARPception.

But seriously, ask 400 capsuleers in Tranq if they want to come to this. You'll get a bunch of "mehs," a bunch of "I can't finance that" from the rookies, and everyone else will be planning on hotdropping it for KMs, or have the lot of you forgotten that this is EVE? The only way an event like this is possible is on sisi.

Props to the guys running this.



Meh Online.

There's one prominent filter. It's a certain mentality. Anything that does not pass the muster of "will this put more ISK in my wallet ? / more green on my killboard?". If the answer is no, then it's railed against, posted against, the monument gets shot over it. Nope it's all about min-maxer ISK/stats obsession and people who actually want to play a game are driven out (or driven to the test server in this case).

To think of the content we could have had instead of ISK faucets and gank pipelines/BLOPs.


Yes have this on TQ and people will be there just to prevent others from playing the game. CODE. is not the fanatical religion we should be worried about, it seems, as there is something worse and it's root is meta to "playing the game".

Meh.


You're basically saying "man, this game would be great if human being would stop being all human and ****" lol.




Yeah because human beings warp around space and get a new body when they get killed. Roll Thank you for illustrating my point. You want peen, then join me in a petition to remove clones from the game then we can talk about being human.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Rezan Tepet
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-08-20 18:35:27 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Rezan Tepet wrote:
It's EVE fanfiction, as acted out by real players. It's like LARPing with Laz0rz, only the LARP is RPing an already virtual universe, which makes it...LARPception.

But seriously, ask 400 capsuleers in Tranq if they want to come to this. You'll get a bunch of "mehs," a bunch of "I can't finance that" from the rookies, and everyone else will be planning on hotdropping it for KMs, or have the lot of you forgotten that this is EVE? The only way an event like this is possible is on sisi.

Props to the guys running this.



Meh Online.

There's one prominent filter. It's a certain mentality. Anything that does not pass the muster of "will this put more ISK in my wallet ? / more green on my killboard?". If the answer is no, then it's railed against, posted against, the monument gets shot over it. Nope it's all about min-maxer ISK/stats obsession and people who actually want to play a game are driven out (or driven to the test server in this case).

To think of the content we could have had instead of ISK faucets and gank pipelines/BLOPs.


Yes have this on TQ and people will be there just to prevent others from playing the game. CODE. is not the fanatical religion we should be worried about, it seems, as there is something worse and it's root is meta to "playing the game".

Meh.


But this wasn't "the game." If EVE Tranq was "the game" this is the equivalent of a bunch of dudes getting a private server and running a "custom match."

Since, to my knowledge, there are no private EVE servers, this is the closest they're going to get. I mean, should it have 80b ISK in Tranq rewards for a custom game? That's literally the only debatable point I see in this, and I'll hear gladly both sides of that argument.

As a new player, I think this event sounds(/ed) awesome. And maybe that's the perspective I'm seeing it from, because I haven't caught Bittervet Syndrome. I don't have bottomless ISK or a reliable source of income yet or the skills to fly pirate battleships. So yeah, to me, this sounds pretty rad. Again, if I'd've known about it, I would've attempted to sign up. If they have another one, I'll attempt to sign up. My two Kred.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#28 - 2014-08-20 18:38:32 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Rezan Tepet wrote:
It's EVE fanfiction, as acted out by real players. It's like LARPing with Laz0rz, only the LARP is RPing an already virtual universe, which makes it...LARPception.

But seriously, ask 400 capsuleers in Tranq if they want to come to this. You'll get a bunch of "mehs," a bunch of "I can't finance that" from the rookies, and everyone else will be planning on hotdropping it for KMs, or have the lot of you forgotten that this is EVE? The only way an event like this is possible is on sisi.

Props to the guys running this.



Meh Online.

There's one prominent filter. It's a certain mentality. Anything that does not pass the muster of "will this put more ISK in my wallet ? / more green on my killboard?". If the answer is no, then it's railed against, posted against, the monument gets shot over it. Nope it's all about min-maxer ISK/stats obsession and people who actually want to play a game are driven out (or driven to the test server in this case).

To think of the content we could have had instead of ISK faucets and gank pipelines/BLOPs.


Yes have this on TQ and people will be there just to prevent others from playing the game. CODE. is not the fanatical religion we should be worried about, it seems, as there is something worse and it's root is meta to "playing the game".

Meh.


You're basically saying "man, this game would be great if human being would stop being all human and ****" lol.




Yeah because human beings warp around space and get a new body when they get killed. Roll Thank you for illustrating my point. You want peen, then join me in a petition to remove clones from the game then we can talk about being human.



lol, not talking about in game. I'm saying that people are people. People play games for lots of reasons, so while you might be in it 'for fun', 'fun to them is min/maxing till all pve is a walk in the park or a green killboard or a trillion isk wallet. Expecting people in a multiplayer game to adhere to your standard of fun is unreasonable. And so worrying about what "the game could be if only everyone had my same idea of fun" isn't going to get you anywhere but to frustration land lol.
Paynus Maiassus
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2014-08-20 18:38:56 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
http://themittani.com/news/community-event-theomachy

Its kind of sad that EVE is so stagnant that one of the larger factions of the game feels it necessary to run an event on the test server, instead of undocking and playing on tranquility.


It's best if you don't take anything on TMC seriously. It's worth reading just to know what they are up to and how they think, but everything has to be thoroughly deconstructed and in most cases ignored. Alex makes his living off Eve, and and increased subscriptions to something awful is important to him, and this leads him to worry about certain things and want certain things and that drives him say certain things. Reading TMC tells you about Alex and the Goons. Not about Eve.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#30 - 2014-08-20 18:48:41 UTC
http://www.theomachy.com/#registration

Or I would have joined in. Don't worry too much about the prizes, just give me a stack of Titans for the test server.
Garai Nolen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-08-20 18:55:32 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Yeah because human beings warp around space and get a new body when they get killed. Roll Thank you for illustrating my point. You want peen, then join me in a petition to remove clones from the game then we can talk about being human.


Except if humans could warp around in space and die without repercussion because CLONEMAGIC, this is pretty much exactly how they'd behave. Which is kind of the point.
Riela Tanal
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-08-20 18:56:53 UTC
Ocih wrote:
http://www.theomachy.com/#registration

Or I would have joined in. Don't worry too much about the prizes, just give me a stack of Titans for the test server.


We will be doing it again with a waiting list of sorts after registration is maxed out cause I am sure a lot of people that would actually show up were unable to register due to the limit, we had only 230 of the 400 that registered participate.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#33 - 2014-08-20 18:58:11 UTC
I was always under the assumption that one of the basic truths of this game is risk vs reward.

I fail to see any risk in that event but plenty of reward.

Just sayin'

Mr Epeen Cool
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#34 - 2014-08-20 18:59:05 UTC
They do this on sisi because this way they don't get hot dropped by 100's of super caps from PL, goons, n3 or some other faction that has more then 10 super caps to spare.
In other words too much deuchebags on tranquility, since it's all "mopoly money" on sisi the bad people can't brag about ruining the event on the forums.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#35 - 2014-08-20 19:06:21 UTC
Not even gonna read this TMC article shill thread.






Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-08-20 19:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Syn Shi
Baneken wrote:
They do this on sisi because this way they don't get hot dropped by 100's of super caps from PL, goons, n3 or some other faction that has more then 10 super caps to spare.
In other words too much deuchebags on tranquility, since it's all "mopoly money" on sisi the bad people can't brag about ruining the event on the forums.



Creating content in a safe environment........Risk vs Reward...guess now its just a catch phrase that sounds good.

Just add arena combat and call it WoW already.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#37 - 2014-08-20 19:27:32 UTC
If the AT can be run in protected space on Tranquility by CCP, removing all outside risk, then I don't see any problem with players running an event on Sisi.

Last I checked, anyone in Tranquility can give stuff to other people without reason. Scammers reward to risk ratio is off the charts - should they change their play?
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#38 - 2014-08-20 20:23:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
Now, if they'd only vacate this server and locate themselves somewhere in between...Jove be praised.

Baneken wrote:
They do this on sisi because this way they don't get hot dropped by 100's of super caps from PL, goons, n3 or some other faction that has more then 10 super caps to spare.
In other words too much deuchebags on tranquility, since it's all "mopoly money" on sisi the bad people can't brag about ruining the event on the forums.

I'm sure "they'll" appreciate this roundabout way of saying they're (bok bok bok) chicken. With friends like this...
who needs enemies?

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#39 - 2014-08-20 20:53:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
I'm still trying to figure out why this is even an issue?

People go to the test server to do all sorts of things without interference or financial restraint all the time, whether that be testing new mechanics, ships, fits, tactics, fleet compositions... literally anything all the time. They always have.

The Dev's host events there all the time to do mass testing and other things as well.

Nobody has any issues with large groups of people doing any of the above, why on earth should this event be considered any different.? It's not like we haven't had the ability (and CCP blessing) to do this all along.

Even an event like this can give CCP valuable data, so I'm pretty sure they are all for it. If you want to arrange to have your next territorial war on Sisi to save money for both sides, GO FOR IT. As long as you trust the other side to be honorable about the outcome. Big smile

Just don't expect anyone else to recognize it as having any relevance what so ever, and realize that you are doing it just to be doing it.

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Regnag Leppod
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-08-20 21:40:01 UTC
Syn Shi wrote:

Creating content in a safe environment........Risk vs Reward...guess now its just a catch phrase that sounds good.

Just add arena combat and call it WoW already.


It does seem to be heading that way.