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Is this harassment?

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1 - 2014-07-26 14:21:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
So just curious but I stumbled across the following link which comes from this thread

Now is this harassment? In this instance, the target clearly gets irate and upset, and the aggressor continues to torment them, so I see no difference between this and a particular other instance of "harassment", as the player doing this has specifically hunted them down knowing they are already upset with the intent of generating tears.

So is this harassment too, or is this the OK way to torment someone beyond their breaking point and chase them out of the game? Normally I'd just say "use a procurer" and move on, but this stands out as being the type of behaviour that supposedly CCP is now against.

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Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#2 - 2014-07-26 14:23:11 UTC
Why don't you submit a petition and see if it is or is not?
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-07-26 14:25:34 UTC
I'd call it harassment, but some PvPers would call it RP.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#4 - 2014-07-26 14:26:25 UTC
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
Why don't you submit a petition and see if it is or is not?
Not my place to. Unlike certain ex-CSMs, I understand that it's the victim of the harassment who should decide if they feel it's petition worthy, as I might start a massive hate campaign against the aggressor only for the victim to ask me to stop. Then I'd have to go ahead and ignore the victim entirely since it will be my hate campaign, not about their suffering by that point.

See how confusing that would get? What kind of asshat would ignore the wants of the victim like that?

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-07-26 14:29:49 UTC
jester goblin stopped blogging so unless some other hack decides to champion this poor victim of torture i doubt anybody will care

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2014-07-26 14:31:28 UTC
It's a lot of unnecessary abuse, that's for sure.
Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#7 - 2014-07-26 14:32:29 UTC
Just remember folks, this is what the new Producer wants us to promote to keep new players in the game...

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-26 14:33:50 UTC
Domina Trix wrote:
Just remember folks, this is what the new Producer wants us to promote to keep new players in the game...


what, raging entitled carebears?

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Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#9 - 2014-07-26 14:39:38 UTC
As amusing as it is to see how much of a target they painted on themselves, I've got to admit that you know you're bad at Eve if you've got to use the forums to find targets...

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Domina Trix
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#10 - 2014-07-26 14:45:17 UTC
Andski wrote:
Domina Trix wrote:
Just remember folks, this is what the new Producer wants us to promote to keep new players in the game...


what, raging entitled carebears?


No, thankfully you don't count. Lol

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Hicksimus
Torgue
#11 - 2014-07-26 14:45:20 UTC
I copied a Borderlands 2 quote the other day and got reported for harassment. They must receive a lot of silly complaints from people who are unable or unwilling to use the block function.

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Arcelian
0nus
#12 - 2014-07-26 14:49:33 UTC
If that was harassment, all of CODE would be banned.
Domina Trix
McKNOBBLER DRINKING CLAN
#13 - 2014-07-26 14:50:46 UTC
Arcelian wrote:
If that was harassment, all of CODE would be banned.


It is not harrassment it is "player content" and "emergent gameplay"

Two of the defining characteristics of a carebear are wanting other players to play the way the carebear wants and whining on the forums for the game to change when they don't. Yet I see more threads on these forums from gankers than I do miners whining about wanting the game changed to suit them.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#14 - 2014-07-26 14:54:39 UTC
You're not allowed to use the EULA as a bargaining chip, all offenses should be immediately reported.

Oh god.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2014-07-26 14:55:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Lucas Kell wrote:
So just curious but I stumbled across the following link which comes from this thread

Now is this harassment? In this instance, the target clearly gets irate and upset, and the aggressor continues to torment them, so I see no difference between this and a particular other instance of "harassment", as the player doing this has specifically hunted them down knowing they are already upset with the intent of generating tears.

So is this harassment too, or is this the OK way to torment someone beyond their breaking point and chase them out of the game? Normally I'd just say "use a procurer" and move on, but this stands out as being the type of behaviour that supposedly CCP is now against.

SO YOU MEAN IF I TYPE IN CAPS BECAUSE YOU ARE ATTACKING ONE OF MY CORPMATES I HAVE GROUNDS FOR A HARASSMENT CASE OMGOMGOMG!!!!!!

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#16 - 2014-07-26 14:55:17 UTC
Arcelian wrote:
If that was harassment, all of CODE would be banned.
I dunno, normally the code guys are hitting targets of opportunity, though often they do take it "too far" by the new definition. This is a bit further than that though, since the aggressor specifically targeted someone they knew was already upset with the intention of upsetting them further. The only intention was to wind this player up, and it wouldn't surprise me if they stop playing following this. So net gain: 0, net loss: 1 sub. Worth it, totally worth it.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#17 - 2014-07-26 14:56:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It's a lot of unnecessary abuse, that's for sure.


Faylee Freir should totally report that guy for this.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#18 - 2014-07-26 14:57:04 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
SO YOU MEAN IF I TYPE IN CAPS BECAUSE YOU ARE ATTACKING ONE OF MY CORPMATES I HAVE GROUNDS FOR A HARRASMENT CASE OMGOMGOMG!!!!!!
lol, it's got nothing to do with the caps and you know it. It's the intent of the aggressor. The intent was clear, to generate more tears from an already upset player.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2014-07-26 15:01:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Lucas Kell wrote:
Arcelian wrote:
If that was harassment, all of CODE would be banned.
I dunno, normally the code guys are hitting targets of opportunity, though often they do take it "too far" by the new definition. This is a bit further than that though, since the aggressor specifically targeted someone they knew was already upset with the intention of upsetting them further. The only intention was to wind this player up, and it wouldn't surprise me if they stop playing following this. So net gain: 0, net loss: 1 sub. Worth it, totally worth it.

you know what we do lucas, she was calling for nerfs over a baisc engagement on the forums, we are free to do something about it if we feel like it.

Had the lot of us stalked her for say a week following and violanced anything she undocked in you might have a point but this is nothing.

now id recommend you leave it unless you want the next few whiny threads to be your responsibility.

Lucas Kell wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
SO YOU MEAN IF I TYPE IN CAPS BECAUSE YOU ARE ATTACKING ONE OF MY CORPMATES I HAVE GROUNDS FOR A HARRASMENT CASE OMGOMGOMG!!!!!!
lol, it's got nothing to do with the caps and you know it. It's the intent of the aggressor. The intent was clear, to generate more tears from an already upset player.

That's exactly what this is over and you know it

I will further add that it was not even a gank, her orca was killed with an incursus .

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#20 - 2014-07-26 15:06:07 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
lol, it's got nothing to do with the caps and you know it. It's the intent of the aggressor. The intent was clear, to generate more tears from an already upset player.

So this is about morals? Please keep your social justice bullshit out of the game, I enjoy being a ****. In fact, I don't even agree with the ToS rules about racism and homophobia etc. While I understand their importance, I also feel they limit the potential of the game. i.e stop holding people's hands and let the players serve their own justice to people they hate.

Rules about RL harassment should remain, ofc.

Oh god.
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