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Is Eve Online doomed?

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Xintri Ra'Virr
Yamaguchi-Gumi
#1 - 2014-07-25 07:52:41 UTC
Looks like there will be serious competition to our favourite game Eve Online.

Elite Dangerous is coming this year.

I remember an old Elite,Elite 2 and Frontier First Encounters which I was playing for years back in '90s.
Now finally new version is coming.

Some feedback from beta testers:

"Wesley Magyar

Ive been playing ED For awhile now. And it is sincerely the best damn game ive ever played.... and its not even close to complete.
Ive been an Eve Online player since 2006, Since ive gotten into the Beta for this i have logged into eve twice.... i have a feeling Eve Is Doomed... This game is the second coming.... i kid you not."

and

"Matthew Downing

I've played EVE from when it was in Beta. I sold my main character about a month after I bought ED premium beta; I know there is no way I'm going back. Fair enough I got into Eve because it was like the new and MMO Elite I'd been craving for... But now I can get the game I really wanted in the first place!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISR4ebdGlOk see for yourselves.

In my opinion current biggest problem in Eve is lack of new content added to game for like last 3 years or so...
Of course DX11 and game mechanic changes are all nice, but its not the thing what will make me stay for much long, especially with new fresh and very good competitor on market.

I've been playing Eve since Apocrypha and I see that Eve is slowly going downhill all the time since then.
Back then we had online around 60-70k ppl on server at given timezone all the time, now it's not going higher than 35k ppl online.
Most of us run 2+ accounts, some even more than 10+ at same time so I'm guessing that real ammount of people playing Eve is not more than 10-12k people.
Elite has now over 25k ppl playing beta ( you can't multibox there ) - it speaks for itself.
Dr Bluntman
Black Wind.
#2 - 2014-07-25 07:57:45 UTC
Cool story bro
Victor Andall
#3 - 2014-07-25 07:58:58 UTC
How the hell is Elite competition for EVE?

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-07-25 08:02:38 UTC
yeah we hear this every time a new space game is released.. and yet we are still here
Xintri Ra'Virr
Yamaguchi-Gumi
#5 - 2014-07-25 08:04:47 UTC
Lady Naween wrote:
yeah we hear this every time a new space game is released.. and yet we are still here


You here because of RMT :)
Reiisha
#6 - 2014-07-25 08:04:57 UTC
Elite: Twitch based, limited multiplayer (max 32 in one place), focused on exploration and singleplayer experiences.

EVE: RTS based, unlimited multiplayer (for all intents and purposes), focused on trade and politics.

Very different games...

I do agree that EVE has been slipping, but that's because most of the activities that generate income are very hands-off. POS, PI, production, market - They don't require much input beyond a couple of minutes a day, with the occasional hour of hauling. Even sov warfare has become a hands-off activity where only occasional structure grinds are necessary.

CCP really needs to introduce more active activities to increase participation or retool current activities to be more active.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
#7 - 2014-07-25 08:05:00 UTC
You guys aren't even trying anymore
Serene Repose
#8 - 2014-07-25 08:05:01 UTC
Anybody noticed what a stupid name this is; Elite Dangerous. (It has all the ring someone in a trench in Kosovo would dream up.) I can imagine how really cool the game must be if the name is so really cool, too! And, gee, a YouTube link TOO? Wow!

I guess it's obvious from your mighty post EVE MUST be doomed!

I remember when it was doomed because of Skyrim...remember that? Then, it was doomed because of Rift...remember that? THEN, it was doomed because of Star Wars the OLD (something with an R). I certainly remember THAT! NOW it's doomed because of...what was that name again...Dangerous Elites...something. Anyway...cool. Doomed.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#9 - 2014-07-25 08:06:26 UTC
There was thread a while ago that analyzed when the "EVE is dying" crap began. Dude even made a cool graph with help from someone who kept records of these kinds of posts.

Based on that I can tell you the following: You are 10 years behind.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#10 - 2014-07-25 08:07:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jint Hikaru
I grew up on Elite, it was one of the first games I played that really got me into gaming and sci-fi. When i first came to Eve it was because i was trying to find a game that would remind me of those days playing Elite.

I'm beta testing ED, and I'm probably going to take a break from Eve when ED goes live. I'm sure other people will too...

But Eve doomed??? Nope!

Eve is a solid game, with a die hard fanbase and many many years of life left.

Fly Safe, whatever game universe you choose to play in!!!!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Maekchu
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-07-25 08:09:28 UTC
Damn... A game with both "Elite" AND " Dangerous" in its title.

Must be a great game!

Where can I sign up?
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
HYDRA RELOADED
#12 - 2014-07-25 08:09:53 UTC
Victor Andall wrote:
How the hell is Elite competition for EVE?

well you can only spend you game time once.

so mabe not in an sence of comparison. but spending gametime on something you normaly would spend on eve
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-07-25 08:10:46 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Anybody noticed what a stupid name this is; Elite Dangerous. (It has all the ring someone in a trench in Kosovo would dream up.) I can imagine how really cool the game must be if the name is so really cool, too! And, gee, a YouTube link TOO? Wow!

I guess it's obvious from your mighty post EVE MUST be doomed!

I remember when it was doomed because of Skyrim...remember that? Then, it was doomed because of Rift...remember that? THEN, it was doomed because of Star Wars the OLD (something with an R). I certainly remember THAT! NOW it's doomed because of...what was that name again...Dangerous Elites...something. Anyway...cool. Doomed.


dont forget x rebirth was going to kill EVE too, and some wow expansion was going to kill it (at least according a small group of trolls) and guild wars 2, and that mmo that came out during incarna.. forgot the name
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#14 - 2014-07-25 08:12:03 UTC
Posting in stealth "Help us make Elite more popular" thread.

New game content is added in EVE so hard, that players after few years break has to do tutorials again. Exploration changes in Odyssey, industry changes in Crius, mobile deployable etc... Eve is losing players count not because of the lack of new content, but because of almost zero advertising and the press on new players to start team PvP carrier instead of PvE. And according to numerous researches most newbees want to start with PvE.So they quit after their first payed month.

Elite is like a pockemon. I mean grafic and background. Eve is a real place. Cold and harsh, with dark and sad stories in behind. Sandbox, created by hundreds of thousands of players during several years.

Absolutely free head start for newcomers!. Just click the link and get extra 250 000 SP!
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#15 - 2014-07-25 08:13:08 UTC
Interesting how no one mentions that you have to PAY £100 to "participate" in the Beta

I wanted it to be good, but considering Braben's post original Elite track record, and the fact that his biggest hit since was Kinectimals, Im not about to mortgage my house for a beta of a game when crashing into asteroids is a regular occurrance, thanks.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#16 - 2014-07-25 08:20:31 UTC
Op in the correct forum you'll find there's already a long-standing Elite Dangerous vs EVE thread here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=307037&find=unread

Oh and another one here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=339682&find=unread

You'll find them nestled close by similar threads about Star Citizen and Event Horizon, around 3 pages deep.

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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#17 - 2014-07-25 08:27:28 UTC
What happens when a new space game comes out is people play it for a bit...then you know...come back.

Why? Because EVE is not a game you can give up. Its like heroin, you always have the urge....even people who have broken it still come and have a look and follow EVE.
Ton'Ka Katsu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-07-25 08:35:19 UTC
omfg eve is dying? this IS news indeed!!!
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-07-25 08:50:10 UTC
Lady Naween wrote:

dont forget x rebirth

I would prefer to, thanks.
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#20 - 2014-07-25 08:53:14 UTC
You know most people play more than one game. It is quite possible that game X Y and Z all do very well, and eve still won't die.

AKA the scientist.

Death and Glory!

Well fun is also good.
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