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30% loss in refining yield OVERNIGHT!
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Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#21 - 2014-07-22 23:30:07 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Wrecking Blow

Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything
Produced by Unsuccessful Productions™
Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus

We'll whine, we'll cry our hearts out guys,
Crius launched, now we question why,
We failed to read the Dev Blogs threads,
A whine, heard throughout all time.

Why don't CCP, SP refund me,
They should always have to..
Highsec was my life, im angry and ill tell you why..
I will always blame you..

Crius hit us like a wrecking blow..
Nerfing industry was really low..
All I wanted was some easy ISK..
Now ruined my game...
Yeah, you, you ruined my game.

Now PLEX is so high, I question why
CCP, why don't you control the price?
Ill gnash my teeth, cry myself to sleep,
Highsec, it used to be so nice.

Why wont CCP, SP refund me,
They should always have to..
Highsec was my life, im angry now ill tell you why..
I will always blame you..

Crius hit us like a wrecking blow..
Nerfing industry was really low..
All I wanted was some easy ISK..
Now you've ruined my game.

My entitlement now overflows..
Yeah, we deserved better than this..
Im left now with 10 accounts..
Im unsubbing now forthwith..
Yeah, CCP wrecked my game.

I never meant to cry so much
I just ooze entitlement..
And instead of using words..
I guess I should unsub to win..
I never meant to cry so much
I just wanted easy ISK..
Why cant you just let highsec win?

Don't you ever say I wont walk away..
Ill unsub and show you..

Crius hit us like a wrecking blow..
nerfing industry was really low..
All I wanted was some easy ISK..
Now you've ruined my game.

Crius hit us like a wrecking blow..
Nerfing industry was really low..
We deserve our easy ISK..
CCP now ruined my game..
Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game..
Yeah, CCP, you ruined my game.


Masterpiece. Puts my limerick spree in OOPE to shame.

11/10

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2014-07-22 23:33:59 UTC
Op is so ret*rded he didn't notice he actually got more after the patch than he would have gotten before it. He just sees a percentage and rages on the forum.

If anything will kill EVE, it's guys like this.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#23 - 2014-07-22 23:36:08 UTC
Aziesta wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Wrecking Blow

Lyrics by Unsuccessful at Everything
Produced by Unsuccessful Productions™
Loosely based upon "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus

Someone batphone Sindel Pellion.


^ Indeed

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Duster Dustovich
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-07-22 23:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Duster Dustovich
[quote=GreenSeed]"All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes"

Is this true for salvaging as well? My take was that salvaging would not be increased, but would be nerfed. New players would take a 50% reduction in reprocessing rate so reprocessing any mission salvage for minerals would be greatly reduced. Consequently using using reprocessed salvage minerals for manufacturing LP store blueprints means the costs will be increased. Have they also applied the mining increase to salvage?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#25 - 2014-07-23 00:16:19 UTC
Salvaging is not nerfed.
Loot reprocessing is 'nerfed' in that it gets less minerals.
However...... Invention changes are coming that may give the looted modules value in their own right as modules rather than worthless. Also Module Tiericide is confirmed to be on CCP's long term plan as well.
Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-07-23 15:29:12 UTC
well done.. at least I was singing along here lol
Solecist Project
#27 - 2014-07-23 15:33:45 UTC
Naburi NasNaburi wrote:
well done.. at least I was singing along here lol

Hey Nase! :D

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#28 - 2014-07-23 15:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Vol Arm'OOO
Peter Raptor wrote:
Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of

chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! :::

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif


Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve!

http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif


Oh and have a great day Big smile


The times they are a changing

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#29 - 2014-07-23 15:50:23 UTC
Yeah after I realized that 70% on the chart is in fact the 72.4% prophesied in the devblogs I was okay with it, for a second.... and then I just lamented all the lost extra minerals and isotopes I could be selling and got entitlement disorder for a while..... then I just reproed it for what it was before and sold it in jita and said meh theres my plexs bought for a while again and carried on.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#30 - 2014-07-23 17:11:56 UTC
Duster Dustovich wrote:
[quote=GreenSeed]"All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes"

Is this true for salvaging as well? My take was that salvaging would not be increased, but would be nerfed. New players would take a 50% reduction in reprocessing rate so reprocessing any mission salvage for minerals would be greatly reduced. Consequently using using reprocessed salvage minerals for manufacturing LP store blueprints means the costs will be increased. Have they also applied the mining increase to salvage?


You are correct. Welcome to two months ago.

KB

Dum Spiro Spero
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#31 - 2014-07-23 17:28:58 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Salvaging is not nerfed.
Loot reprocessing is 'nerfed' in that it gets less minerals.
However...... Invention changes are coming that may give the looted modules value in their own right as modules rather than worthless. Also Module Tiericide is confirmed to be on CCP's long term plan as well.


This is kind of where it's at now.

Anything with a meta version can be made to T2 with 100% results in the Invention tree. If your skills are even at 4 you won't need Meta 4 to get it done, add a meta 3 to the invention, it will be enough, Hulls, rigs, anything that has no Meta tree versions are where it gets really hard to T2 stuff. If the Hull has a T2 BPO you don't even try. You can't compete.

As for the OP and his rant, it's misinformed. Nothing more to be said.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#32 - 2014-07-23 18:32:59 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Wrecking Blow
...

+1 for UAE LolAttention.

Remove standings and insurance.
Pheusia
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#33 - 2014-07-23 18:36:05 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of

chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! :::

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif


Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve!

http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif


Oh and have a great day Big smile


You didn't read the devblog did you?


never mind, here's a cookie for being adorable
Exxter Evox
Tri-Star Enterprise
#34 - 2014-07-23 19:08:19 UTC
I just tested the 70% and its not equal to the 72.4% which was mentioned pre release to compensate for looses. It actually is 70% of the 72.4% thus everyone refining with perfect skills from today onwards in high sec is loosing out on 2.4% minerals or 2.4% ice products.

Error CCP or intended would be nice to have it clarified.

Oh and I am not moved to move into low sec just for refining CCP since you havent taken into account the human factor.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#35 - 2014-07-23 19:17:44 UTC
Exxter Evox wrote:
I just tested the 70% and its not equal to the 72.4% which was mentioned pre release to compensate for looses. It actually is 70% of the 72.4% thus everyone refining with perfect skills from today onwards in high sec is loosing out on 2.4% minerals or 2.4% ice products.

Error CCP or intended would be nice to have it clarified.

Oh and I am not moved to move into low sec just for refining CCP since you havent taken into account the human factor.


You need them implants and standings.

Just as planned.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#36 - 2014-07-23 19:22:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Exxter Evox wrote:
I just tested the 70% and its not equal to the 72.4% which was mentioned pre release to compensate for looses. It actually is 70% of the 72.4% thus everyone refining with perfect skills from today onwards in high sec is loosing out on 2.4% minerals or 2.4% ice products.

Error CCP or intended would be nice to have it clarified.

Oh and I am not moved to move into low sec just for refining CCP since you havent taken into account the human factor.

That's the right figure when you don't have a 4% refining implant.

Links to my math:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4770202#post4770202
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4780736#post4780736

Tau Cabalander wrote:
Max Skill At 50% Facilities = 69.575% [or -2.783%]
Max Skill At 50% Facilities and 4% Refining Implant = 69.575% * (1 + 4%) = 72.358% [this is the old "perfect refine"]
Gedrick frogue
Heuristic Industrial And Development
AddictClan
#37 - 2014-07-23 19:42:18 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
"All minerals, ice products gained by reprocessing ores and ices have been increased by 38.1% to compensate for the reprocessing changes"


first friggin line on the patchnotes...


Go do your sums, high sec miners are being screwed over
Titania Hrothgar
Nemesis Retribution
#38 - 2014-07-23 19:54:02 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of

chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! :::

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif


Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve!

http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif


Oh and have a great day Big smile


Seriously? You think it takes winning the lottery to afford $15 a month? I blow more than that in a week eating out and I'm no millionaire. I know people who spend more than that a month on 2 packs of cigarettes that last them a day. Who can't afford $15 a month?

All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players.
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2014-07-23 19:59:45 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
Despite Max refining skills, best refining implant, highest standing with NPC station corp, whats the point of

chasing the proverbial ball of wealth in this game if CCP thwarts the whole process and laughs at us in the process!!! :::

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2013-11/enhanced/webdr06/21/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14678-1385051057-29.gif


Ice prices gonna go through the roof, and only lottery winners gonna be playing Eve!

http://i.imgur.com/ECtfYXe.gif


Oh and have a great day Big smile


I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume you didn't read the patch notes prior to the patch release.
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-07-23 20:02:29 UTC
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
Quote:


30% loss in refining yield OVERNIGHT!


My god, the night did that?! Damn you solar cycles!


I blame sunspots.