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Why do players hate others for Auto piloting?
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Organic Lager
Drinking Buddies
#41 - 2014-07-21 13:13:03 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Gorinia Sanford wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


It's called "bot aspirancy".


Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.


Far from it, if you take the time to consider it.


I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant. For the most part if someone is moving systems in a shuttle it's because someone(s) asked them too, which more often then not is for some none bot like content.

Anyone using auto to transport any items of value (including your pod) is taking unnecessary risks and fully deserve anything they have coming.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#42 - 2014-07-21 13:30:09 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Here's an idea... AP turns off if scrambled. Another hobby for griefers to just aggro and scram AP freighters to make them stop...

A genius idea if I ever heard one. Warp scramblers disable your MWD so you have to wait to reactivate them until you're not scrammed, why not the same with the autopilot?

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#43 - 2014-07-21 13:33:54 UTC
I don't care about ISK when I gank.

It autopilots in something poppable,
so it deserves to be ganked.

All the rationale behind it doesn't even need further explanation.

(I was there before CODE even existed, so don't think of starting with this crap)

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#44 - 2014-07-21 13:40:03 UTC
Organic Lager wrote:

I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant.


Um, what?

I think you might have missed the whole concept. Because manually jumping 20 systems is absolutely not bot aspirancy. I honestly don't know where you got that from.

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Red Cross Mercenaries
Silent Infinity
#45 - 2014-07-21 13:43:37 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around
1. Don't mistake a few loudmouths on the forum with 'the community'. Certain people also post with several alts to give the impression that a certain general opinion exists.

2. Don't mistake the relatively few people that post here with the playerbase. Only a tiny fraction posts on the forum and doesn't represent the opinion of the the whole playerbase.

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Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#46 - 2014-07-21 13:44:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
LazyDeer wrote:
See I have no problem with dieing because I auto piloted. None doesn't hurt me at all, just so confused as to why I'm the bad one due to auto piloting and is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


People have always hated other people that claim to play a game yet they use the auto features. If you are using the auto features on 1 toon because you are too busy with other toons then you are not playing that toon so in essence your not playing the game using up valuable server resources that an actual player could use.

If you need to go pee then dock up or safe up and cloak. If your too lazy to warp to 0 and jump 32 times then dock up and close the client.

I guess you could answer the question:
Would you do it in Null Sec?
If the answer is yes then you can probably do it in Hi Sec as well.

Now you know the answer.
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#47 - 2014-07-21 13:45:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Christina Project
Sarah Flynt wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around
1. Don't mistake a few loudmouths on the forum with 'the community'. Certain people also post with several alts to give the impression that a certain general opinion exists.

2. Don't mistake the relatively few people that post here with the playerbase. Only a tiny fraction posts on the forum and doesn't represent the opinion of the the whole playerbase.

While this is true, a considerably large part of the whole community agrees
that walking through the bronx in an armani suit,
with a golden rolex and a shiny suitcase ... will get you killed.

And you lot should be renamed to anti-code,
because you reduced yourself to promotional value for CODE ...
... while achieving nothing ...
... ignoring all the other ganking that happens.

Embarassing.

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Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2014-07-21 13:50:36 UTC
No one is against it. It makes for easy targets. I encourage more players to autopilot/AFK, padding a killboard is easier when people aren't even at their computers.

Hate is such a strong word. And implies that the autopiloting/AFK pilot matters whatsoever. They do not.

We simply blow them up and move on to the next target. We don't waste time on any emotion for people not actually playing the game. They hold no more interest for us than NPC rats- shoot em and loot em, and two minutes later we're on to the next target.

So rest easy, no one hates you- we don't even think about you when pulling the trigger.
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#49 - 2014-07-21 13:56:39 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?


omg man up and stop the flood of tears, you are reading way to much drama into this, you got killed, deal.
Organic Lager
Drinking Buddies
#50 - 2014-07-21 13:57:42 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Organic Lager wrote:

I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant.


Um, what?

I think you might have missed the whole concept. Because manually jumping 20 systems is absolutely not bot aspirancy. I honestly don't know where you got that from.


You don't go 100% tunnel vision when jumping gates? Given how impossible it is to catch a shuttle warping to 0 in high sec and how the destination is all that is of concern. If you actually pay attention to the universe around you, well, you are a far better pilot then me.
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2014-07-21 14:00:03 UTC
Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:

Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.

Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind.

So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#52 - 2014-07-21 14:02:14 UTC
Organic Lager wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Organic Lager wrote:

I would hardly consider allowing a bot to do the work of a bot should be "bot aspirancy", if anything manually jumping 20 systems is bot aspirant.


Um, what?

I think you might have missed the whole concept. Because manually jumping 20 systems is absolutely not bot aspirancy. I honestly don't know where you got that from.


You don't go 100% tunnel vision when jumping gates? Given how impossible it is to catch a shuttle warping to 0 in high sec and how the destination is all that is of concern. If you actually pay attention to the universe around you, well, you are a far better pilot then me.

Nope, no tunnel vision here.
Do you play zoomed in?

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#53 - 2014-07-21 14:04:19 UTC
RoAnnon wrote:
Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:

Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.

Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind.

Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities,
because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp.

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2014-07-21 14:06:20 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
RoAnnon wrote:
Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:

Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.

Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind.

Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities,
because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp.


There're always exceptions. Thanks for calling me simple minded.

So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-07-21 14:06:34 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
RoAnnon wrote:
Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:

Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.

Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind.

Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities,
because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp.


There are two kinds of people in the world: those who think in false dichotomies, and penguins.

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#56 - 2014-07-21 14:08:19 UTC
RoAnnon wrote:
Christina Project wrote:
RoAnnon wrote:
Any trash talk you're getting about autopiloting is coming from one of two groups:

Either the group of folks that don't like ANYONE that plays EVE differently than they do and feel a need to try to get everyone to play their way, or the group that feels some sort of need to justify ganking your shuttle.

Neither group really knows wtf they're actually on about, so pay them no mind.

Always fun to see how simple minded people reduce everything to two possibilities,
because actual reality is too hard for them to grasp.


There're always exceptions. Thanks for calling me simple minded.

You're welcome. I wouldn't call you that,
if you wouldn't put it up for display.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#57 - 2014-07-21 14:20:38 UTC
People may say that they hate autopilot and such, but 9 times out of 10 that's just being said as a kind of ingame excuse, or to purposely wind people up for fun. CODE have their whole ideology built around the same sort of thing.

What it boils down to though is that people like to blow stuff up that belongs to others, that's what the game is about. By choosing to autopilot you make yourself an easier target and so more likely get blown up. It's a risk you need to factor in when autopiloting.

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Careby
#58 - 2014-07-21 14:51:45 UTC
Why do players hate others for Auto piloting?

Because it takes me a few seconds to focus my hatred, and by that time everyone who isn't auto-piloting is gone.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2014-07-21 14:57:21 UTC
One of my alts got popped in an empty shuttle and podded whilst merrily AFKing though Udaema yesterday. Imagine my delight when I came back from the bathroom to discover the journey back to my home system was already done and I could go on about my business.

I sent the expediter of my travel plans a warm thank you and a couple million for a new thrasher.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#60 - 2014-07-21 14:58:05 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?


Maybe he ****** up and got squashed by CONCORD before he got your pod? It could happen.

But let this be a lesson for you: Only autopilot when you can afford the loss of both ship and pod. And if you just want to travel somewhere and don't want to use a jump clone, change to a medical facility close to your target.

This way, if you get shot while autopiloting, your ganker actually helped you out. Lol