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Why do players hate others for Auto piloting?

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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#21 - 2014-07-21 05:29:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Belt Scout
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?


I think you may not see the opportunity as it presents itself. He didn't just blow up a worthless shuttle. He "gave" you a nice little killright with which you can use to hunt him and have some fun.

Set him to red, add him to your watchlist, use a locator agent, and boom goes the dynamite. All in that order.

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They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.

Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#22 - 2014-07-21 06:25:14 UTC
So a dude spends his time in h-sec shooting shuttles, launches some BS about autopiloting to "explain" himself and you're the one bad at EVE?

Times change. But since you bought it, guess he was right.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#23 - 2014-07-21 07:26:26 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then?

With what? His pod?

He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle.

Mr Epeen Cool

The Thrasher can be fit for fast lock and will one-volley a shuttle. It is therefore more than possible to pop the pod as well before CONCORD arrives on scene. There are pilots who pipe-stalk between Incursion focuses with the express intent of popping high value pods.

Not that I used to treat shuttles as abalative armour for my pod in that manner... and now use a Jag.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-07-21 07:50:56 UTC
It's called rationalisation.

They want easy kills but sort of feel all bad about it so the anti AP role play thing lets them kill you without getting the guilts.
Arknos III
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-07-21 07:52:20 UTC
There are probably a few people out there that actually think auto-piloting is wrong. For the most part though, I think the hate is applied towards people who think they have the right to autopilot in peace.

If you are auto-piloting because :effort: and you fully accept that you should be able to be shot down, I don't think anyone will hate you for it. If they do, then they are hating someone for playing a video game in a manner in which they prefer, which makes them anti-sandbox and therefore non-relevant.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#26 - 2014-07-21 07:58:33 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
It's called rationalisation.

They want easy kills but sort of feel all bad about it so the anti AP role play thing lets them kill you without getting the guilts.


I assure you, neither I nor anyone I know "feel bad" about blowing up people in a videogame.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-07-21 08:00:00 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?


Mainly because you're not (according to them) playing the sandbox correctly and they're behavior controlists at heart. You know, kind of like the anti-smoking nazis of yesteryear.
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2014-07-21 08:04:40 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Seems the thrasher pilot got mad because your shuttle wasn't full of this seasons fabulous clothing lines.


Or PLEX. Can carry quite a bit of those, even on a shuttle.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#29 - 2014-07-21 08:04:41 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Seems the thrasher pilot got mad because your shuttle wasn't full of this seasons fabulous clothing lines.


Among which was the most exquisite item fashioned by CCP, the monocle. I do envy the capsuleer who now has the opportunity of joining the most exquisite and exclusive club in New Eden. I did hear that their hauler nearly met a very unfortunate end.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#30 - 2014-07-21 08:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?

Where in any of that was hate against autopiloting expressed? It rather sounds like you're projecting a fair amount here.

No-one hates others for autopiloting. At most, some get annoyed when people who get killed while autopiloting come to the forum and complain and start demanding that their non-playing be made more safe.
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2014-07-21 08:06:10 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


It's called "bot aspirancy".


Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#32 - 2014-07-21 08:10:36 UTC
Gorinia Sanford wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


It's called "bot aspirancy".


Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.


The definition is not nebulous, the subject it covers is broad.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#33 - 2014-07-21 08:18:05 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Gorinia Sanford wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

It's called "bot aspirancy".

Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.

The definition is not nebulous, the subject it covers is broad.

Heh, not bad.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#34 - 2014-07-21 08:24:34 UTC
Gorinia Sanford wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


It's called "bot aspirancy".


Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.


Far from it, if you take the time to consider it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-07-21 09:27:40 UTC
OP, he wasn't hating you, just trying to make fun of you.

Everybody knows (or should know) that autopiloting in highsec can get you killed, depending on what you're flying and what you're carrying.

So players tend to equate autopiloting = clueless player.


In your case, since you just lost an empty shuttle and provided your pod was empty-ish too, you certainly didn't make a derpy mistake like this one.

So the guy was just generalizing. If you ask me, smack-talking (or smack-mailing) after losing a thrasher to an empty shuttle is pretty silly. Lol Come to think of it, maybe he was a bit butthurt himself.

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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#36 - 2014-07-21 10:18:05 UTC
OP just fell for the bait and gave the pro-ganker some special Forum-Tears!
Dude lost a shuttle... shuttles are dirt cheap.
I wonder which kind of thread we would have got if he might lost, god forbid, a frigate or a dessy!
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-07-21 10:49:02 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?



Peopel do not hate autopiloting. Just autopiloting ships stay much more time available tof scanning and ganking.

If you autopilot in a shuttle, you probably will never be ganked in high sec. Same for an interceptor.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2014-07-21 10:51:17 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then?

With what? His pod?

He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle.

Mr Epeen Cool

The Thrasher can be fit for fast lock and will one-volley a shuttle. It is therefore more than possible to pop the pod as well before CONCORD arrives on scene. There are pilots who pipe-stalk between Incursion focuses with the express intent of popping high value pods.

Not that I used to treat shuttles as abalative armour for my pod in that manner... and now use a Jag.



A good reason why my alts travel in maledictions with 6K Ehp.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Gor Yo
Taxes Shmuckses
#39 - 2014-07-21 12:35:44 UTC
I dont think gankers HATE auto-piloters. it is a game feature after all.
it is just that auto-piloters make extremely easy gank targets, but since most gankers are lowlife scum with no sense of selfworth, they come up with excuses why they gank autopiloters to make them feel better about themselves. ridding EVE of bots blah blah blah. go scout out mining belts and take out isboxers. sure CCP condones it because each box is one more PLEX, but most other mmorgs ban for such activities.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-07-21 12:52:33 UTC
Gor Yo wrote:
I dont think gankers HATE auto-piloters. it is a game feature after all.
it is just that auto-piloters make extremely easy gank targets, but since most gankers are lowlife scum with no sense of selfworth, they come up with excuses why they gank autopiloters to make them feel better about themselves. ridding EVE of bots blah blah blah. go scout out mining belts and take out isboxers. sure CCP condones it because each box is one more PLEX, but most other mmorgs ban for such activities.

Your bias is showing.
Calm down, and find some powder for that case of red ass.