Out of Pod Experience

I don't think it's localized to America but I'd rather have a resident of a different country comment on their situation than me speaking ignorantly about it.

Of course we have a lot of freedoms here, but a few of us get very worked up if even a tiny bit of our personal freedoms is taken away (and rightfully so.. being a slippery slope, in my opinion). I find CCTV to be completely outrageous, for example..

Different perspective - Give them fully automatic assault rifles to make up for that missing 63%.



edit: sorry it's the Minmatar coming out

Please avoid trying to put words in my mouth. I know it's not just New York and I know it's just not in the US.

I have friends that have been in the deep hospitable South and have gotten in fights just because they weren't the 'right' type of people to be in 'their' bar, hell a close friend lost her brother to a fight in the deep South when some ******* decided to slam his car in reverse and slam her brother into a wall. He was dead within two minutes. Assholes are a dime a dozen and are every where. It just so happens that New York City has a higher population to pool from. Heck Richmond, Va is often times near the top of the Murder Capital list and I have numerous bad experiences here, but that is no reason to tell people not to come here.

I hazard that most anywhere in the world you can find someone that had horrible experiences there. I have heard plenty of good and bad stories about most of the World's largest cities. But by all means, if you personally have had 1 or more bad experiences anywhere do not return and definitely tell your friends. But realize that your experiences are a minute drop in the bucket.

Just saying that unhappy does not necessarily equal mean. Find and post a link to a CDC study saying New York is the meanest city in the America and you have a point. I will stop there as this is currently a derailment

We should not say "police are abusing their power".

We should say (or admit) that any human being given impunity WILL abuse it. It does not matter who that person is or where they come from. There have been studies around this and it's proven every damned time.

And this goes all the way down to even an individual hiding in a voting booth and using the state (or the police) to exert their will on someone else - and experiencing to a degree the same immunity to consequences. Yes the nice old lady next door might be voting to put your money in her pocket (rather than rob you at gunpoint herself - stop paying taxes and see what happens to you) or send you off to a meat grinder for yet another crap war.

And when it all goes to hell, can you call out every little voter on it? "What, little old me? Why, I'd never rob anybody or destroy entire nations because I was afraid of them or didn't like them".

Meanwhile, the police are to be viewed as a dangerous armed gang. They can murder anybody and get away with it. That's the extreme. For the most part, they can simply decide to kick your ass and then charge you with felony assault on a police officer (if they break a sweat). We see a lot of cases where charges are dropped only because the cops are caught on video but how many languish in prison now, for which there was no evidence to exonerate them? And the zombie public does not care.

When there are cases where the accused is not only exonerated but the jurisdiction has to give them money in the resulting lawsuit, then I hear zombies say "but that's taxpayer money!!!!!". Well. I don't see taxpayers giving a flying rat's ass. So pay the f**k up, sheeple. You don't like it, then do something about it if you can look up from your smart phone for more than 2 minutes.



The best defense is complete avoidance. NEVER CALL THE POLICE. The only things I will call the cops for is to report a body or a stolen vehicle. For anything else, forget it. I won't even have a dog because I'm afraid of what I might do to a cop who brainlessly shoots it. Not a week goes by we don't hear about a fenced up harmless dog getting murdered. Scores of SWAT raids every day and they'll not only shoot the suspects' dog(s), they'll shoot the neighbors dogs too. I have had involvement in the kind of training that cops get and they are trained with "Operant Conditioning" meaning anything even possibly seen as a threat, they go into reptile brain mode.

Another thing to do is know how to identify cops and be alert. It's no different than if you have crips, bloods, and MS-13 prowling around looking for victims, except them you can legally fight back against. Fight the cops and you'll be "Dornered" (burned to death in whatever structure you hide in while the media paints you as the devil himself - the cops might even take out some of their own "non team players" and internal affairs of non-corrupted prosecutors and pin it on you).


I find this site to be a good resource.

As my Dad used to say, when your car is stolen, it's better to take the insurance money instead of getting it back. He had a luxury car stolen once, in the 70s, and it was recovered, but a few bucks for the mechanic at the impound yard and the car was "trashed".

The only reason why I would report a stolen car is to prevent becoming a suspect if the car is used in a crime, like as a getaway car in a bank robbery or something like that. I'm not going to get a vehicle stolen and shrug it off then not expect a 2AM SWAT visit (and getting shot for their jollies).



I said jollies, right?

No offence RAIN, and I understand that an instance of police misconduct is the premise of this thread, but your anti-law enforcement rhetoric is some of the scariest **** I've read.

You do realize that there's incompetent, corrupt and misguided people in every trade? The Police certainly aren't unique. Firefighters, ambulance workers, bank tellers, even at the shopping check outs. And yes .. even in the military. Some of the stories that've come out of war zones of soldier misconduct have been horrifying, and make heavy handed civil police look like kindergarteners.

Police aren't perfect, but they're here to do a job for the community. They're human just like every other person in any job and are open to making mistakes or doing their job poorly, no matter how they're trained or what standard we hold them. They're not some "enemy" of the people, there's as many fantastic folks doing heroic work in emergency services around the world (including the USA) as there are heroic and outstanding members of our military.

Hey, sure. What you're saying is exactly right.

But it's how you go about trying to effect change.

Protests, lobbying your local parliament, writing and meeting with your local member, writing the local media, etc.

Not making a stand on pride, yelling or abusing police, facing up to them, threatening them or like your story a page or two back - where you wrote about having a stand-off with guns drawn with an officer who you felt was over-zealous. That's just pure, absolute madness. Imagine if shots were fired, and some little girl three doors down gets a round in the face, all because ::rights:: and pride. It's irresponsible and as someone looking in from the outside it's the kind of attitude that exemplifies everything that is wrong with American gun culture today.

As a parent I find your stories really scary ... like really scary. I'm glad people can't carry weapons in such ways here.


Where I'm from probably nothing. The Police wouldn't be interested in playing musical chairs or negotiating an solution to the protestors' issues - that's not their job. They'd stand back and keep watch, ensuring they kept the peace if anything went overboard or got out of hand.

But I come from a country where in 30+ years of life I've never seen a police officer even dressed in riot gear.

And just wanted to add ...

It's real hard to post what I said up there and somehow NOT come across offensive lol

I know you've served, RAIN, and I get the feeling you and people close to you have been through a lot of tough ****. Reading your posts it's also obvious you take an enormous amount of pride in your service and the training. I can completely understand that and I don't seek to diminish that whatsoever.

I've served myself too, around 10 years Infantry, a great deal of it reserves though and I've never been to war thankfully. These days in civi-street I work security in courts and corrections. I enjoy firearms, loved spending time at the range, and like to think I'm capable with them too having won an award for my marksmanship and weapon handing. Maybe one day I'll even teach my kids how to use and respect them - at a range. But I've little desire at all to even own a weapon myself, let alone carry one in the street.

Had that been me in the situation you wrote about with that officer who was scared and over-zealous I'd have gone straight down to my knees, hands on head and yelled "I have a permit" while I waited for him to search and disarm me. I'm sure it would have all been checked and verified within minutes and I'd prolly be on my way again. If not, or if the officer was an **** about it, I'd get his badge number and ensure a complaint was filed with his station that day - and you can bet I'd (or my lawyer) be following it up every day until I was satisfied.

Why would I want to risk my own life, the officer's life, or the lives of bystanders and make a stand on pride in the middle of the street with a loaded firearm against a police officer who's merely trying to do his job, answering the call of a concerned citizen about some guy wandering down the road with a gun. Why is that worth someone dying?