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pushing for harder punishment on hi sec gankers

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Paranoid Loyd
#361 - 2014-09-03 23:27:50 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:


Wow this says it all.. Please please please read that blog if you haul, mine or whatever. Make yourself a "hard target".


It is well written, up to the point where it encourages players to join the "antiganking" channel. I've never seen a more toxic, paranoid, and generally totally misinformed group of players in EVE. They will give you the type of advice that results in more deaths to the player, not less :)


Agreed, it is good to laugh at, that's about all.

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#362 - 2014-09-03 23:28:24 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:


Wow this says it all.. Please please please read that blog if you haul, mine or whatever. Make yourself a "hard target".


It is well written, up to the point where it encourages players to join the "antiganking" channel. I've never seen a more toxic, paranoid, and generally totally misinformed group of players in EVE. They will give you the type of advice that results in more deaths to the player, not less :)


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#363 - 2014-09-03 23:38:17 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Perhaps I am wrong about the New Order?


Yes, you are.

Thomas Mayaki wrote:
The New Orders support for Erotica1 and the encouraging out of game harrassment of players is incompatible with the 'the RP Shroud comes off and we talk the person down from that spot'.


Perhaps you're wrong about Erotica1 too.
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Doomheim
#364 - 2014-09-03 23:40:15 UTC
Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards.
Paranoid Loyd
#365 - 2014-09-03 23:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards.


Until you actually do it and see how "easy" it is, you don't know what you are talking about and therefore have no say in the matter.

You just made that alt, train it up and put up some kills, then we can talk.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#366 - 2014-09-04 00:07:38 UTC
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards.


The opposite is true.

You know what's unfair? That people actually have to take it upon themselves to punish those who don't play the game correctly. That the game in and of itself is so easy that you can just afk autopilot through all of highsec, and if a player doesn't kill you, nothing will.

They should implement rats that gatecamp in highsec. That'd solve that problem nicely.

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#367 - 2014-09-04 01:32:13 UTC
Keep pushing peasants...

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

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#368 - 2014-09-04 02:58:08 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards.


The opposite is true.

You know what's unfair? That people actually have to take it upon themselves to punish those who don't play the game correctly. That the game in and of itself is so easy that you can just afk autopilot through all of highsec, and if a player doesn't kill you, nothing will.

They should implement rats that gatecamp in highsec. That'd solve that problem nicely.


Now that is an idea that could be fun. Make it part of the whole empire losing its grip narrative as well. Make most gates a running battle between rats and faction police entities such that players need to be even more aware of the status of gates at all times. *gasp* Maybe even scouting in hisec will become a thing!!
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#369 - 2014-09-04 04:31:43 UTC
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Dreadnaut Faustus
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Cowardly Soloists
#370 - 2014-09-04 04:43:34 UTC
I think the gank mechanic is kind of lame. It should carry more gravitas. Trials ganking is extremely lame.

However, what I think is ultimately even more lame is people charging outrageously for contracts to haul. The idea of going from gate to gate without any consequence. The idea I can just mine a rock, like a bot, or move materials through the space without any consequence... completely ceases EVE to function as a game.

Ganking, in this way, is like a forest fire.

It kills the rich to feed the bold or poor.

The idea of Concord being the police is also rather lame.
Concord should be killable.

That being said, I have never ganked. I also never have been ganked.
But hey' there's a first time for everything.

Just my thoughts.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#371 - 2014-09-04 05:53:26 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards.


The opposite is true.

You know what's unfair? That people actually have to take it upon themselves to punish those who don't play the game correctly. That the game in and of itself is so easy that you can just afk autopilot through all of highsec, and if a player doesn't kill you, nothing will.

They should implement rats that gatecamp in highsec. That'd solve that problem nicely.


Now that is an idea that could be fun. Make it part of the whole empire losing its grip narrative as well. Make most gates a running battle between rats and faction police entities such that players need to be even more aware of the status of gates at all times. *gasp* Maybe even scouting in hisec will become a thing!!


Carebear response: But if I can't autopilot to Jita how will my stuff get there?... Do you really expect me to sit at my computer the whole time?
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#372 - 2014-09-04 05:57:22 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards.


The opposite is true.

You know what's unfair? That people actually have to take it upon themselves to punish those who don't play the game correctly. That the game in and of itself is so easy that you can just afk autopilot through all of highsec, and if a player doesn't kill you, nothing will.

They should implement rats that gatecamp in highsec. That'd solve that problem nicely.


Now that is an idea that could be fun. Make it part of the whole empire losing its grip narrative as well. Make most gates a running battle between rats and faction police entities such that players need to be even more aware of the status of gates at all times. *gasp* Maybe even scouting in hisec will become a thing!!

Make burner mission rats spawn on gates.
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#373 - 2014-09-04 06:17:58 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Froggy Storm wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:
Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards.


The opposite is true.

You know what's unfair? That people actually have to take it upon themselves to punish those who don't play the game correctly. That the game in and of itself is so easy that you can just afk autopilot through all of highsec, and if a player doesn't kill you, nothing will.

They should implement rats that gatecamp in highsec. That'd solve that problem nicely.


Now that is an idea that could be fun. Make it part of the whole empire losing its grip narrative as well. Make most gates a running battle between rats and faction police entities such that players need to be even more aware of the status of gates at all times. *gasp* Maybe even scouting in hisec will become a thing!!

Make burner mission rats spawn on gates.


Oh that's even better! Every gate turns into a smash and grab demo derby to put jita to shame!
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#374 - 2014-09-04 10:08:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
IIshira wrote:
Carebear response: But if I can't autopilot to Jita how will my stuff get there?... Do you really expect me to sit at my computer the whole time?
lol you're getting jaded, join the club. P

You're right though, the response would be pretty much that or something else along the lines of "How dare you expect me to make an effort to protect myself from others, I QUIT!!!" Twisted

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Velicitia
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#375 - 2014-09-04 10:19:10 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:


Wow this says it all.. Please please please read that blog if you haul, mine or whatever. Make yourself a "hard target".


It is well written, up to the point where it encourages players to join the "antiganking" channel. I've never seen a more toxic, paranoid, and generally totally misinformed group of players in EVE. They will give you the type of advice that results in more deaths to the player, not less :)



well, there's a difference between "an anti-ganking channel" (i.e. "typical intel channel, centered around not getting killed") and "the anti-ganking channel" (which is exactly as you state).

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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
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#376 - 2014-09-04 10:35:29 UTC  |  Edited by: DJentropy Ovaert
Velicitia wrote:


well, there's a difference between "an anti-ganking channel" (i.e. "typical intel channel, centered around not getting killed") and "the anti-ganking channel" (which is exactly as you state).


Fair enough :) There are some really decent intel channels out there that work well when it comes to keeping people updated as to ganking activity, and you don't have to wallow in the toxic atmosphere of the channel known as 'anti-ganking'.

On the down side, if you want strategic advice from the mastermind known as 'DrysonBennington' - you have to hang in the anti-ganking channel. You simply must experience it at one point in your life :P

"SCISSOR ATTACK TECHNIQUE" forever. It's literally "The End of the End of CODE" :P You can also listen to Veers Belvar complain about how bumping is an exploit, regardless of what CCP says, and other highlights. Join today for the lulz :)
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#377 - 2014-09-04 10:52:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
You can also listen to Veers Belvar complain about how bumping is an exploit, regardless of what CCP says
Is he still at it?

I've got him down as lasting till around christmas, blocked and written off as a hopeless case.

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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
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#378 - 2014-09-04 11:01:48 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
You can also listen to Veers Belvar complain about how bumping is an exploit, regardless of what CCP says
Is he still at it?

I've got him down as lasting till around christmas, blocked and written off as a hopeless case.


He's still at it. He can literally fill a bingo card in a single post, with phrases such as

"Helpless miners"
"Innocent miners"
"Exploits"
"Grrr Goons"

And the list goes on. Still, he's not quite on DrysonBennington's level, who is unable to keep a computer working well and when he suffers any form of technical issue, goes on long window rants that blame "The CODE" for DDOSING him ;)

This, of course, from the guy who claimed the trick to getting a freighter past a well run gate camp is to "Open a bunch of web browser windows" the second you jump, which will cause the player to magically appear 1mil KM from the game. I think he's missing the part where he crashes his session and has not read up on the mechanics involved :)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#379 - 2014-09-04 11:05:44 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:


This, of course, from the guy who claimed the trick to getting a freighter past a well run gate camp is to "Open a bunch of web browser windows" the second you jump, which will cause the player to magically appear 1mil KM from the game. I think he's missing the part where he crashes his session and has not read up on the mechanics involved :)

Wait what!?

LoL.
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#380 - 2014-09-04 11:08:00 UTC
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