Science & Industry

Do we have any idea what the job install costs are going to be?

From what I understand the Sisi costs are irrelevant even in an empty system & I don't see anything in the patch notes.

I'm currently thinking about the best way to present the cost index data.

Right now, I'm thinking per region, in a table. Or possibly in a table with X jumps from a specific system (as I have a jump distance table already)

Graphical sounds nice, but isn't actually /that/ useful.



The reason the SiSi costs are useless, is because running a single job can skew the numbers dramatically (as the overall numbers are tiny) The math is working fine, it's just one of the inputs isn't realistic.

It will be based off the jobs already running there already I believe.

Removing slot limits is going to remove the reason a lot of research stations are currently being used for research. I don't imagine job costs are going to be quite as effective at spreading research jobs around the universe as the lack of available slots has been. It will take some time for costs to settle as players find their new homes. One remaining issue will be available office space in research stations, which will be important for corporations doing research. Since individuals doing research don't need offices, it may not be a big deal overall. For corps, it may drive office rent up in desirable locations, which will be one more consideration when choosing locations.

I don't know how others are handling the uncertainty. I have picked out several possible locations, rented offices, anchored towers and/or bookmarked tower locations. But I have no idea where I will decide to settle. I do not expect to be moving often to chase low job costs once the initial dust has cleared.

Another wild card is the change to Supply Chain Mgt range. Setting up in a region outside of a major hub to reduce competition may be harder. A manufacturer could base-camp near a hub and send a freighter with supplies and BPC to poach low rates or teams in outlying area.

Just think if this change was made to market trading.

Well you should put that into perspective: researching a Raven BPO to perfection pre-Crius takes 17.540 years, 9 months, 21 days, 16 hours without bonuses.

This was just in a rather unused system, even with SiSis skewed data. In another system nearby, the installation cost for researching maximum level was a bit over 75 billion ISK.

You could say you pay the shorter time (133 days and a few hours with my current skills) with that load of extra money.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. CCP are handing a huge advantage to everyone pre-patch with ME > 10 BPOs. I've got to assume the figures on SiSi are preliminary. I mean work out how long you'd have to produce with that BPO to recover the cost of researching it, assuming you were doing it 23/7? Many, many years.

yep its crazy .... used to manufacture stuff in a system which barely had other jobs installed(high sec).
now i would have to pay 40 mill a day to run my 10 jobs for 24h -.-

It's nuts isn't it.