EVE General Discussion

I'm almost done training for fit full T2 tank (armor repair, damage control and various resistance). But training for T2 large guns (hybrid or energy) will take 34 more days!!

1. Is it a bad idea to try to solo L4 missions with T1 guns and T2 tanks?
2. I will be able to use T1 sentry drones soon but NOT T2 sentry drones (38 days to train for that :( ). However, I was hoping to use Amarr Battleships instead of Gallente (even though I'm Gallente). Since I can't use T2 guns yet, should I go for a drone Dominix for soloing L4?

If anyone has a fit for L4 missions with T1 guns (laser or hybrid) that works for solo missioning, please feel free to share.

Lasers absolutely do not work with T1 ammunition unless you use Beams, which are a fitting nightmare. And even then the performance is sketchy.

Like baltec said, just do L3s really fast instead.

[Raven, mission]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor I

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Micro Jump Drive
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II


This is what I am using at the moment, I'll be upgrading to the rattle soon. The key parts to making a battleship viable as the king of lvl 3 mission blitzing are the Hyperspatial rigs and a full set of Ascendency implants and the WS-615 warp speed skill hardwiring. Combined they make the battleship warp like a frigate. Fitting a Large Micro Jump Drive is also handy in shortening missions but is optional if you are having fitting issues.
Without knowing your skills its hard to come up with a fit for you but I would look into perhaps the hyperion for hybrid/drones or the Apoc for lasers. Something like the following


[Hyperion, Hyperion fit]

Damage Control II
Core C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Co-Processor II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script

425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II


Hobgoblin II x5
Warden I x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Should do the trick.

t1 guns will serve, depending on what ship you use for mission running. and the advice of using pirate battleships are out of context, am I correct to guess that you do not have enough support skills to justify flying a pirate BS?

having t2 tank is more important for mission running. a raven is good for starters, if you have good drone skills a dominix will also be fine. Then again, this all depends, which empire space do you run missions for? Because that will also determine what type of rats you will face. Those two are greatly encouraged as they allow you to switch damage types(drones/missiles), If you're a little strapped for isk, that could be a huge cost saver. Also t2 ammo costs more.

Train up and just use a regular Dominix with T2 sentry drones.

Hell, I had to log into the game to see if I had any guns fitted on my mission ship.

I have, two light neutron blasters as I do not like empty slots.

I spent that 30 days in an apocalypse...in gurristas space.
It's doable with beams and faction Crystals with a micro jump drive.
Don't try t1 pulses, it will make you want to pull your teeth out.
That said, baltec knows the class a lot better than most so maby try his thing and report back.

“Bad”? No.
Suboptimal, yes.

You'll want weapons that primarily deliver kinetic and thermal damage. You'll want to stay away from explosive and EM. Lasers do a mix of EM and Thermal (with an emphasis on the former) so you'll always do a fair bit less damage than you could with a more appropriate weapon system.

As tippia said, it's fine, could be a lot better but it's actually fine.
For a LAZOR platform with low skills I found the apocalypse or it's navy Version to be rather forgiving, here was my fit (don't laugh at me for it. This on the other hand is fair game laugh away.)

Just tested apocalypse.. t2 tank .. 3 heat sinks and meta 4 dual heavy beams (the cheap fit ones).... works pretty well.

BC lack the range. Navigation wise the primary things are the rigs and implants as by far the most time will be spent in warp. As far as guns go its honestly not too much of an issue as rats will always burn towards you reducing the transversal to near zero. Thats where the sensor booster comes in, lock up the frigs and blap.

In many missions you only have to kill a handful of targets (some you just blap one thing) so hitting out to around 80km can save you a lot of time. I would infact say to take your battleship into level 3s to start with to learn how it work, they are a lot easier and are a much softer way to ease into battleships. It also allows you to train battleship skills and see noticeable improvements as well as oddly enough, giving you better pvp skills in these ships.

Another way to go would be to use the marauders as they have the rep bonus and the mjd bonus which means a blaster kronos could be viable. Naturally the OP shouldn't worry about this as these lvl 3 ships are very skill intensive and probably will only be flown by myself and a handful of other enthusiastic battleship pilots.