EVE General Discussion

IZ's isk/hour figures also varied wildly like the number of communists in McCarthy's list

Now think about just how bloody safe you are in highsec. The words "virtually uninterrupted" come to mind.

Then think about how missions are not finite. One mission agent can support as many players as can fit in the system.

Just for laughs, have a read of this little historical gem

PS Take particular note of how many missioners claimed that 25M/hr was a ludicrous and implausible esitmate of the income for doing L4s. O Brave New World...

isk\hour here.... isk\hour there...
who gives a f****...

yes you get shitload of isk... best case scenario you upgraded to maxed skills and most pimped ridiculously officer fit rare edition ship which is mother of all gank magnets or something stupid like that...

for what?

doing the exact same activity you did 3 years before that to hoard the cash.

point is play to have a good time... it's a game not 2nd job.

The sad truth is null sec is like a desert a barren wasteland that makes up at least 50% of k-space, yes there are oases where people are drawn together and activity can be found but for the most part systems are empty.

The reason for this is in my humble opinion (and i could be very wrong) is not because of super size coalitions (at least not entirely) but the simple fact the vast majority of null sec is worthless without upgrades on all them i-hubs ratting in those systems just aint worth ya time, mining got a nice buff in null sec and would be worth while now, but the insane buff given to interceptors with the bubble what bubble and fast warp speed and ridiculous alignment speeds making the all but impossible to catch makes the skiff and maybe Procurer the only viable option (as they can tank) and even then its a massive risk that again in my opinion exceeds the reward gangs 30-50 strong of crows are so common now.

ice mining, these belts are far less common and you can almost guarantee systems where there found will be camped by the good old cloaky camper (a almost completely risk free style of play).

all of it makes worthless systems pointless and are only really used for transiting through. even if all your normal ratting systems are camped your better off going up to high sec and running L4 missions to make isk than move to a non upgraded, low sec status (under -3.0) system, you simply make more isk and a lot safer environment, even if your war decked as long as you stay clear from the trade hubs for the duration of the war your gonna be relatively safe.

As for miners when the mining systems are camped i think you would still be better off going upto high sec and mine up there yes the isk you make will be less but its a lot more than what you make sitting in station.

the fix.... make worthless space unused space worth something idk make it that all sites a system would have with the pirate detection array at 5 appear as standard, massively reduce the bounties of all pirates and change the pirate detection array to increase the bounty by 5% per level with pirate detection array level 5 paying bounties that are on par with the bounties we see today.

I thought you all maxed out your Ihubs out there in Nullsec and went and ran DED complexes til' your eyes bled and you fell unconscious at the keyboard? I've heard those officer drops are really sexy :D

In fact I've heard that you folks make billions of isk pretty easily. It's a beautiful thing when you can max out a system for a certain activity, or hell for more then one even. I mean you can have one system as a constant mining system with bonus ore showing up, plus on top of that bonus anomalie sites to farm to your hearts content.

Throw together your massive mining teams and clear all 15 belts in one system that day all with a Rorqual boost and every single character maxed out for mining with implants. Then you take all that ore and compress it and throw it in storage to refine it later in batches with a highly focused refining character, who perhaps is also a highly focused industry character and walla you have ships for cheap to use and abuse to your hearts content.

I can't even imagine how awesome you guys have it in Nullsec. From what I hear, unless you are a complete dunce, there is massive isk to be made.

My point was there is no need to maximize isk\hour like mad man. If you make enough to sustain you enjoyable activity you should be happy.

In my first week I did EVERY tutorial agent X 3 per faction X 4 factions + SoE Arc... first week in the game... no skills..
Had 200-300 mill in the end of that week.

Money is easy to get in this game.

might be trading or ISOBoxing 40 mining barrages with orca.

Hey let me tell you about Incursions, also SoE missions.

Oh a callout, we're onna see an escalation here.

Cyno up?