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I can understand people disliking slavery. I get it(albiet Amarr slavery is somewhat different to what they are often thinking of). IC racism is annoying and a turn off for a lot of Amarr characters, but it's understandable.

However, what I'm talking about is the bleed over to OOC.

See, a lot of people consider me arrogant for making my character a Holder, one with extremely high standards, deep background, and titles. I've actually been threatened OOCly just because these people don't like my rp. IC threats make sense, but OOC? Seriously?

To him(Vulxanis), if he requires you to call him by his proper title(Lord Draconis), that's normal. He also requires himself to address you in the way you find most respectful.

This isn't arrogance, it's cultural sensitivity. Including internal cultural sensitivity.

Now, ICly your character can think it's arrogance. That's fine. That can be due to any number of reasons.

However, apparently a lot of rpers just don't like me OOCly for rping this way.

I do my best to keep OOC separate. Why can't others do the same?

Here's an example of a good separation:

People like Nauplius irk me OOCly because OOC, he likes drama, whereas I don't. He actually likes to incite drama. That's a legit OOC reason not to like someone. Not liking him because he rps a blooder, that's not, however. He's allowed in the Amarr.OOC channel because OOC is separate.

Possibly this OOC hate is jealousy? I have had characters in all 4 factions roleplay channels at one point or another. I have never, and I repeat, never, seen any of the other factions be as organized as the Amarr. It's almost pitiful if I'm honest lol

Amarr rp is fun, even if you're not a holder. Some people like the whole titles thing. Just like some people enjoy games that simulate medieval eras. A lot of Amarr rpers have a fascination with history, including myself, and can connect via that to the amarr.

If you know of someone/have encountered someone who can't keep IC/OOC separate, let me know, and I'll add them to my list. If you want to know if someone is safe to rp with, just ask me before roleplaying with someone. The list isn't public.

So here's a question for the comment section: How can we keep something that's not real(EVE lore) out of our relationships with people in real life?

As this post was not locked and I saw no order to discontinue the discussion, I would like to voice my agreement with ISD Ezwal. The tone I was intending to post was frustration, rather than antagonistic. I apologize if that is what came across. Even if that is not what he intended to tell me, I wholeheartedly agree with his explanation.

That's different though.

In all honesty, the OOC hate isn't unique to Amarr (albeit they get the biggest part sadly due to two traist they got, slavery & religion)
However, the best way to deal with it is to ignore/report the haters (when they breach rules) and focus on those who do give you a positive experience. Use block function if needed.
When you don't respond to provocations, they usually fall silent pretty soon.

All in all, Vulxanis here is an enjoyable person to chat around with!

I treat OOC hates as local smack talk.

There exist also a type of RPers who will make OOC drama when they are not treated the way they want to be treated ICly. Like you RP a holder, but suddenly comes along a person that hates the idea you seem superior ICly and start making OOC threat and demand you to stop at once . You know, EVE being EVE where threats/smack talks reign supreme.

I find that it helps to reply ICly to OOC heathens too , "Unenlightened heathens and their gibberish"

People in this day and age just seem to have a natural mistrust of establishments..... in the case of the Amarr you get 3 packed in one bundle.

Religion
Civil Order
Imperial

In the end Amarr are by far the most interesting group not only from an historical sense but also is terms of design and ideology. I have to admit I used to love playing the bad guys in games until I played EVE, now its blue skies, noble proclamations, and Amarr all the way,

Right, but that's against NPCs and pixels. I'm talking full blown resentment or even hate, simply because someone chose a different race than you, or likes to roleplay differently. I'm actually a part of the immersive roleplay community, and letting IC/OOC bleed over is a big no-no, and yet it keeps happening against Amarr players.

That's not neccesarily an OOC bias. What you choose to fly (or not) can be an entirely in-character decision; for instance, PIE Inc. only flies Amarr hulls to show their dedication to the Amarr Empire.

I actually like that link lol idc who wrote it :P It's got some good stuff in there. I think I'll bookmark it.

And it's hard not to take "I don't have a lot of respect for people who roleplay the way you do. It pisses me off." as a personal insult.

And as far as I'm concerned, that person could rp a sansha or a blooder. Idc OOC. There are actually Sansha and Blood Raider rpers I actually like OOC. IC my character would spill their guts in the most painful way imaginable. OOC, I'm happy to hear from them lol So it's not like I don't try to practice what I preach.

I certainly face that issue attempting to keep the Dust forums RP alive..... people just don't seem to be able to separate IC and OOC, often time I get accused of some kind of archaic pro-slavery racism, I've spent more hours than I can count attempting to explain to these people the differences between my characters views as shaped by Amarrian culture vs my OOC views and opinions as shaped by my own culture.

Also I have found people have made assumptions about my personality based on my IC views...... its hilarious when they actually get to know me and find I have more fun chatting about the game than preaching, and giggling as I roll over people in a tank.

Thats not to say I don't enjoy labeling people as heretics and apostates.