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Skill Points for PLEX?

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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#1 - 2014-07-17 17:20:15 UTC
I misread someone else's thread, and actually thought it was a good idea that I've never seen come up.

Skill points for PLEX.

Not "buy a PLEX and convert it to skill points" but "Convert skillpoints you wish you didn't have into PLEX"

Feeling bad about all those industry/mining skills you trained but never use? Convert them into a PLEX!

Annoyed that CCP is completely removing skills from the game (Material Efficiency V anyone?) and playing the semantics game by "changing" the skill to a completely different one? Just delete those useless skill points and apply them towards a PLEX!

Obviously, the ratio of skill points to PLEX would have to be pretty high - far higher than the amount of skill points you can generate during a billing cycle - but I'm sure CCP (or the forums) could math out a good ratio.

Bonus is that a lot of very old/high SP characters who are heavily into being "bittervets" would have an easy way to grab some PLEX and shed so many SP that they could once again get that "newbie" feel (gee, I can't wait until I can fly interceptors *again*!).

I see no downside to this and plenty of upside. It's only a matter of time.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2014-07-17 17:24:32 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:


I see no downside to this and plenty of upside.


You are about to be educated in the many downsides to this. Hang on people until I get the popcorn made.

Mr Epeen Cool
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-07-17 17:29:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
I'm all in favour of quicker training times.

But the problem is it will be P2W

Presently you can get isk via PLEX so it's kind of limited P2W as you are limited by your learnt skills. SP for PLEX would remove that limitation.

edit:

Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
I misread someone else's thread, and actually thought it was a good idea that I've never seen come up.

Skill points for PLEX.

Not "buy a PLEX and convert it to skill points" but "Convert skillpoints you wish you didn't have into PLEX"

Feeling bad about all those industry/mining skills you trained but never use? Convert them into a PLEX!

Annoyed that CCP is completely removing skills from the game (Material Efficiency V anyone?) and playing the semantics game by "changing" the skill to a completely different one? Just delete those useless skill points and apply them towards a PLEX!

Obviously, the ratio of skill points to PLEX would have to be pretty high - far higher than the amount of skill points you can generate during a billing cycle - but I'm sure CCP (or the forums) could math out a good ratio.

Bonus is that a lot of very old/high SP characters who are heavily into being "bittervets" would have an easy way to grab some PLEX and shed so many SP that they could once again get that "newbie" feel (gee, I can't wait until I can fly interceptors *again*!).

I see no downside to this and plenty of upside. It's only a matter of time.



Didn't read yours properly, was being lazy scan reading.

The whole point of choosing skills is that you have to make a decision of which skills to learn, if you could just undo those decisions then there wouldn't really be much point in the skill system. This is an old discussion btw.
eliminator2
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-07-17 17:31:26 UTC
just gunna post so i can view all hate
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-07-17 17:33:01 UTC
Back up guys.. ima gonna roll my ISD dice to see whos gonna lock it..



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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2014-07-17 17:33:38 UTC
What's that saying? IB4TL?
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-07-17 17:35:41 UTC
I am not even sure what to say about this. It's utterly ridiculous on it's face, but other that helping to bust the bubble on the PLEX market (which is already happening on it's own), I don't see much of a downside so long as the numbers were properly tweeked.

Well, other than the fact that it would cost CCP some twentybux, which means that it will probably never happen. ;)
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#8 - 2014-07-17 17:38:37 UTC
ISD Barstool incoming!

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2014-07-17 17:42:46 UTC
Still on the front page:
Time for Skillpoints for plex ?
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Dave Stark
#10 - 2014-07-17 17:49:18 UTC
if you right click a plex then redeem it for game time, then wait 30 days. your plex will have given you 30 days of SP.

it's magic.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#11 - 2014-07-17 17:50:54 UTC
I wouldn't see a problem with a skillpoint redistribution for PLEX, 1 PLEX per 10 mil sp should be more than fair... as long as it was also on an annual cooldown or even a one time deal. You would also have to PLEX your entire sp pool, not just the sp you wanted to remap. So you want to remove your Caldari Dreadnought V in favor of Minmatar Dreadnought V? You still have to pay to remap your other 100 million sp.

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Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#12 - 2014-07-17 17:59:10 UTC
oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!

I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho

Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-07-17 18:01:02 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!

I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho




You're not the only one, edited my post after rereading the op this time more carefully.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#14 - 2014-07-17 18:02:35 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Yarda Black wrote:
oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!

I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho




You're not the only one, edited my post after rereading the op this time more carefully.


Damn you! :)
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#15 - 2014-07-17 18:07:23 UTC
This idea is bad on several levels, a few of which are just annoyances.

1) as said already, eve is a game of choices and consequences. You chose your path, you can change it later, but that's your choice. In other mmo's they limit your ability based on race and class. In eve the only limitation is time.

2) In real life once you learn something, you can't really unlearn it. I personally have not worked for burger king in close to 20 years now, but I can still make a whopper and wrap the damn sandwich faster then people working at other fast food places. I can't unlearn any of the skills I gained while working there, it was 3 year of my life that is now technically wasted, but it was a choice I made. The same goes with eve, I have skills in eve that I have not used in years, some I wished I never had. But they were my choices and my history. So this is a bad idea form logic.

3) I honestly wish CCP would stop removing skills. But that's just me, its created this class of 'omg this is changing gimme back my sps!' The same thing happened when exodus was launched, ccp credited the players 2 free days, and for about 5 years ever patch players asked for free days... sigh.

No this idea is dumb from a pure balance aspect. As I said the only limiting factor in eve is time. You made your choice, deal with he consequences.

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Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#16 - 2014-07-17 18:19:51 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
if you right click a plex then redeem it for game time, then wait 30 days. your plex will have given you 30 days of SP.

it's magic.


Example of knee jerk post Big smile
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-07-17 18:29:45 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
oh wow. Am I the first to understand this is the exact opposite of SP for plex? Based on the reactions sofar.... yes. +1 for me!

I dont enjoy this idea tho. You trained a skill. You had your reasons. Converting unwanted SP into plex is just a refund. It will also mess up the characterbazaar imho


No, I actually read the op as well, which my first post can attest to. I am still not exactly sure what to make of the idea though.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#18 - 2014-07-17 18:35:45 UTC
Unless it cost twice as much SP as what you could earn in a month, this is essentially delayed skill remapping....

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Captain Stupid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-07-17 18:36:10 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Back up guys.. ima gonna roll my ISD dice to see whos gonna lock it..



Came up Barstorlode.


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Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-07-17 18:41:48 UTC
I have to give it to the OP: this is the least terrible thread with that has the words/phrases "PLEX" and "skill points" together in a single sentence.

It's not an offensive idea, I just don't see it happening. I don't know why CCP would do it as you're basically letting people recycle game time. The accounts you manage to retain with this scheme wouldn't be financially supporting the game because of that.
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