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What happens to market orders if account lapses?
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Bayonnefrog
Blueprint Mania
#1 - 2014-07-17 14:23:15 UTC
Hello Eve-O,

Not sure where to ask this so thought I'd start here. If you let your account lapse for whatever reason do your market orders remain active? Or are they canceled? or how does that work exactly? thanks.

Bay
flakeys
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-07-17 15:18:02 UTC
They will just elapse when their orderdate elapses so if you put them on a 3 month period then they will go on for 3 months regardless of your account being active or not.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#3 - 2014-07-18 01:47:43 UTC
flakeys wrote:
They will just elapse when their orderdate elapses so if you put them on a 3 month period then they will go on for 3 months regardless of your account being active or not.


Really? So a character on a lapsed account can still buy/sell? Doesn't seem right. Or do you mean that the order disappears from the market but the order lapse countdown still continues?

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Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-07-18 04:28:49 UTC
they can still buy and sell. the order doesnt vanish just because your account is inactive
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#5 - 2014-07-18 21:02:56 UTC
Zappity wrote:
flakeys wrote:
They will just elapse when their orderdate elapses so if you put them on a 3 month period then they will go on for 3 months regardless of your account being active or not.


Really? So a character on a lapsed account can still buy/sell? Doesn't seem right. Or do you mean that the order disappears from the market but the order lapse countdown still continues?


Yes, a character on a lapsed account can buy and sell, but not very efficiently and with great risk. As you know, prices on EVE market constantly change, so something like this could easily happen:

- sell order for an item whose price is dropping or dropped suddenly (due to speculation, in-game changes, whatever...) is just going to sit there;
- sell order for an item whose price is jumping or jumped suddenly is lost trading profit;
- buy order for an item whose price is dropping or dropped suddenly is gladly going to be filled by other players leaving the buyer with overpaid items and ISK loss;
- buy order for an item whose price is jumping or jumped suddenly is just not going to be filled;

In a word - sure... leave your orders unattended for 3 months and let you account expire Lol
flakeys
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-07-19 06:44:19 UTC
Zappity wrote:
flakeys wrote:
They will just elapse when their orderdate elapses so if you put them on a 3 month period then they will go on for 3 months regardless of your account being active or not.


Really? So a character on a lapsed account can still buy/sell? Doesn't seem right. Or do you mean that the order disappears from the market but the order lapse countdown still continues?



I didn't think it was possible untill i tried it a few months ago when i let my 3rd account also run out of subtime.On that account i still had one char who was doing some interregional stationtrading , nothing much but enough to only need 1 hour a week at most wich was enough to pay for my 3 subbs and get some extra in.

Anyway he still had for around 20 B in goods and me being lazy as i am these days i didn't feel like hauling it to jita or paying someone to do so.As such i just set them for a 3 month sell period to see if or if it did not work .Worst case 20 B of stuff comes back into the corphangar , but it did sell off though verry slowly.As you can't update prices you are just going to have to hope on some items the price will rise again.Out of the 20 B about 18 B of stuff sold of wich most in the 3rd month .

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Bayonnefrog
Blueprint Mania
#7 - 2014-07-21 17:17:17 UTC
Ok thank you. I thought this was the case but wanted to confirm with the vets
Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#8 - 2014-07-22 16:35:01 UTC
Bayonnefrog wrote:
I thought this was the case but wanted to confirm with the vets


I'm a vet and I can also confirm this. I'm even such a vet (=old f****) that I remember that the API, once created, kept working on inactive accounts and thus allowed you to watch the items sell/buy on those acounts.

Good old times ... :sigh:

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Exeodus
Masters of Mass
#9 - 2014-07-24 06:04:19 UTC
Even older vet here - Back in my days we had what we called ghost traning - on the last day of your sub you could set e.g. battleship V to train while unsubed Big smile
flakeys
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-07-24 06:59:08 UTC
OMG i didn't even notice untill now , i turned 10 years old in eve on the 11th of this month .....


Damn missed another great excuse to get drunk.What?

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Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-07-25 06:52:09 UTC
flakeys wrote:
OMG i didn't even notice untill now , i turned 10 years old in eve on the 11th of this month .....


Damn missed another great excuse to get drunk.What?


Its Friday, great excuse. and if you cant get drunk today, then get drunk because you missed getting drunk.. or if you got drunk.. get drunk to celebrate that you got drunk.
Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#12 - 2014-07-25 16:47:32 UTC
Exeodus wrote:
Even older vet here - Back in my days we had what we called ghost traning - on the last day of your sub you could set e.g. battleship V to train while unsubed Big smile


Ha, I also remember that. Used that quite a couple of times for those rank 8 level V skills (Mini and Caldari BS, for example and Large Arty Spec.) ...

... that and a EVE without Titans.

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