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Goonswarm are fundamentally homophobic and racist

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-07-17 14:20:59 UTC
Chiimera wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
News flash:

Racism isnt illegal.

Homophobia isnt illegal.


I swear to god if this bulllshit political correct garbage winds its way into the damn games I play, ill shite a chicken, and then hang myself in the shower, with guitar strings.


LOL Racism is illegal in some countries and in most workplaces :D


In the great country of 'Merica, it is not illegal. Immoral maybe, but no, you cant prosecute someone for being racist. Can you fire them from a job for making racist remarks? Yeah, most likely, but you could also fire someone for making a myriad of other types of remarks.

Keep the political correct garbage IRL where it belongs.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#22 - 2014-07-17 14:44:43 UTC
I'm bout as LGBTQ social justice warrior as you can get, and I'm not even offended by typical GoonTalk.

SA, 4chan, ED, they're all just trying to be 3dgy, tossing around such remarks purely in an attempt to shock and offend as many as possible. It gets an eyeroll from me.

I've met true "I'm going to murder you for being trans(in my case)" LGBTQ-phobia. Goons, they are not that.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-07-17 14:53:05 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
LGBTQ .


Q?

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Magnus Cortex
Ginger Industrial Solutions
#24 - 2014-07-17 15:01:09 UTC
~Let a thousand flowers bloom~

Are you the guy who got purged yesterday?
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-07-17 15:14:52 UTC
this is kind of a weird thread in general and op sounds like a hetero

Chiimera wrote:
Just because an entity uses a homosexual reference to define something as having a negative connotation it doesn't mean they are homophobic it just means that they have a very limited vocabulary and have wrongly used a noun.

Goonswarm and the greater CFC are one of the most caring and accepting groups I have ever been a proud member of. I personally know and have helped and counselled other members of our coalition who are dealing with their sexuality and it's offensive for you to make these completely untrue allegations.

While I don't condone the use of Gay, ******, ***, Poofter, Lezbo or Carpet Muncher as a negative connotation you are trying to link two very separate things. It is unfortunate that most of us grew up learning these things and carrying them onto adulthood.

So how about you try being an adult, stop being a **** and stop lighting fires because you got shat on for being a tool.

but this is definitely the weirdest thing to come out of it so far

also modern SA has toned down their homophobia and racism significantly in most places outside of subsections like fyad. but apparently it's been purged because i checked the SA forums and it looks like it's gone now? whatever it was funny while it lasted
Loki106
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-07-17 15:20:36 UTC
Magnus Cortex wrote:
~Let a thousand flowers bloom~

Are you the guy who got purged yesterday?

Are you talking about the idiot with his titan?
Lady Areola Fappington
#27 - 2014-07-17 15:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Areola Fappington
Leto Thule wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
LGBTQ .


Q?



Q, as in "Queer". Not exactly sure WHAT it stands for, but it's there.

I've been informed by my Social Justice friends that the current acronym is "LGBTQQIAAPO" That's "Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Queer Questioning Intersex Asexual Antisexual Pansexual Omnisexual".


Yes, I think it's silly too, and there's been discussion about how the needless appropriation of "-sexual"s is diluting and destroying the actual meaning behind the term. It's just, when you get into social justice politics anymore, it's less about social justice, and more about finding new and inventive ways to be superior to another person. "More tolerant than thou" is a thing...


Also lolz, filterpwned. The Q is that word spelled with a Q, a U, two E's, and an R.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-07-17 15:35:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
Gotcha.

Death by acronyms Lol

Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Asexual Antisexual Pansexual Omnisexual".



Lol what?

Asexual meaning non-sexual reproduction? -- Not sure thats possible lol

Antisexual meaning they dont want sex at all? They need a group to belong to?

Pan/Omni sexual... does that mean you have sex with any/everything? (Looking at that once scene from "American Pie", I guess.)

Im so confused. QuestionShockedQuestion

Also...

Thread derailment successful.

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Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-07-17 15:36:40 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:

Q, as in "*****". Not exactly sure WHAT it stands for, but it's there.

I've been informed by my Social Justice friends that the current acronym is "LGBTQQIAAPO" That's "Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender ***** Questioning Intersex Asexual Antisexual Pansexual Omnisexual".


Yes, I think it's silly too, and there's been discussion about how the needless appropriation of "-sexual"s is diluting and destroying the actual meaning behind the term. It's just, when you get into social justice politics anymore, it's less about social justice, and more about finding new and inventive ways to be superior to another person. "More tolerant than thou" is a thin

oh, liberals who think that they're radicals and their identity politics, ha ha ha

tbf, the people who are most invested in that kind of thing tend to be vulnerable young people who already have a lot of problems in their lives, so most of the time making fun of them is needlessly cruel. but op is just making drama for the sake of drama
Lady Areola Fappington
#30 - 2014-07-17 15:51:08 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Gotcha.

Death by acronyms Lol

Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Asexual Antisexual Pansexual Omnisexual".



Lol what?

Asexual meaning non-sexual reproduction? -- Not sure thats possible lol

Antisexual meaning they dont want sex at all? They need a group to belong to?

Pan/Omni sexual... does that mean you have sex with any/everything? (Looking at that once scene from "American Pie", I guess.)

Im so confused. QuestionShockedQuestion

Also...

Thread derailment successful.



Huzzah, derailed!

Like I said, I can't pretend to understand how it works, I just know I've been called a bigot for not supporting it. It really seems to me like the biggest chunk of it is what I call "speshul snowflake" syndrome. Insecure people who can't accept being a part of a "common" group, so they make up a label for themselves, then slap it on a known, established label to gain credibility.

It ends up being really annoying, because the "silly" people ranting about how "demiromanic totes needs to be respected and if you don't know YOU'RE A BIGOT!" drags the actual issues down to that level.

It's hard to have a discussion about, say, transgender people and public bathrooms (actually an issue!), when your detractors can quicklike Google up something silly and throw out "Look at these stupid SJW idiots these are the same people making up fake pronouns!"

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-07-17 16:04:12 UTC
Let us discuss the origin point of Goonswarm.
Goonswarm players originated from a hellhole called the Something Awful forums, a beautiful place of trolls, dicks, cyber hobgoblins and so on. Somewhere in 2006 they migrated to EVE Online with only one purpose: wreck the game.
Goonswarm quickly started gaining support and, eventually, became Goonswarm Federation. By the time of 2009, Band Of Brothers (BoB), the most powerful alliance at the time, perceived the Federation as a threat, thus beginning the Great Wars.
There were two Wars in total. During the first one, BoB and GSF both fought ferociously to kill each other, but the First War ended in a bloody stalemate.
By the time of the Second War, GSF had gained the upper hand in the conflict, and more and more corporations broke off to join the Federation, including alliances such as the Northern Coalition. When the end of the Great Wars drew near, the Chairman of BoB himself disbanded the alliance, stating the following: "I like their system better".
After these events, the remnants of the BoB were waging a losing war with the titanic forces of the GSF. They suffered an utter defeat, and Band of Brothers bit the dust.
Nowadays, Goonswarm and other influential alliances have forged themselves into one, fearless organization: Clusterf*ck Coalition (AKA CFC).

So, I have my own reasons to dislike the Goons. They originate from the lowest scum of the Internet, and most of them still act like that. They have a special talent of making you dislike the game.
Example: I was out mining in nullsec when this Goon comes in a Sabre and blows up my ship. "No neutrals on Goonswarm turf", he said. Strange thing was that we were 48 jumps away from the GSF's borders. Second of all, they have absolutely no moral principles and no sense of reason. A friend of mine lost his Rhea to a Goonswarm suicide gank. "Why would they gank you? Your hold was empty", I asked.
I heard about more and more disturbing events about the Goons, and I have come to the conclusion that they are people that you do not want to waste your time talking with.

"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."

Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-07-17 16:11:10 UTC
Robert Sawyer wrote:
Let us discuss the origin point of Goonswarm.
Goonswarm players originated from a hellhole called the Something Awful forums, a beautiful place of trolls, dicks, cyber hobgoblins and so on. Somewhere in 2006 they migrated to EVE Online with only one purpose: wreck the game.
Goonswarm quickly started gaining support and, eventually, became Goonswarm Federation. By the time of 2009, Band Of Brothers (BoB), the most powerful alliance at the time, perceived the Federation as a threat, thus beginning the Great Wars.
There were two Wars in total. During the first one, BoB and GSF both fought ferociously to kill each other, but the First War ended in a bloody stalemate.
By the time of the Second War, GSF had gained the upper hand in the conflict, and more and more corporations broke off to join the Federation, including alliances such as the Northern Coalition. When the end of the Great Wars drew near, the Chairman of BoB himself disbanded the alliance, stating the following: "I like their system better".
After these events, the remnants of the BoB were waging a losing war with the titanic forces of the GSF. They suffered an utter defeat, and Band of Brothers bit the dust.
Nowadays, Goonswarm and other influential alliances have forged themselves into one, fearless organization: Clusterf*ck Coalition (AKA CFC).

So, I have my own reasons to dislike the Goons. They originate from the lowest scum of the Internet, and most of them still act like that. They have a special talent of making you dislike the game.
Example: I was out mining in nullsec when this Goon comes in a Sabre and blows up my ship. "No neutrals on Goonswarm turf", he said. Strange thing was that we were 48 jumps away from the GSF's borders. Second of all, they have absolutely no moral principles and no sense of reason. A friend of mine lost his Rhea to a Goonswarm suicide gank. "Why would they gank you? Your hold was empty", I asked.
I heard about more and more disturbing events about the Goons, and I have come to the conclusion that they are people that you do not want to waste your time talking with.

no you're wrong
Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2014-07-17 16:17:39 UTC
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
Robert Sawyer wrote:
stuff

no you're wrong


and provides no reasons as to why.
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-07-17 16:23:20 UTC
Logan PewPew wrote:
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
Robert Sawyer wrote:
stuff

no you're wrong


and provides no reasons as to why.

he's wrong
Yokai Mitsuhide
Doomheim
#35 - 2014-07-17 16:29:20 UTC
Chiimera wrote:
Just because an entity uses a homosexual reference to define something as having a negative connotation it doesn't mean they are homophobic it just means that they have a very limited vocabulary and have wrongly used a noun.

Goonswarm and the greater CFC are one of the most caring and accepting groups I have ever been a proud member of. I personally know and have helped and counselled other members of our coalition who are dealing with their sexuality and it's offensive for you to make these completely untrue allegations.

While I don't condone the use of Gay, ******, ***, Poofter, Lezbo or Carpet Muncher as a negative connotation you are trying to link two very separate things. It is unfortunate that most of us grew up learning these things and carrying them onto adulthood.

So how about you try being an adult, stop being a **** and stop lighting fires because you got shat on for being a tool.


Yep, sounds like a good caring group to me.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#36 - 2014-07-17 16:35:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Robert Sawyer wrote:
Let us discuss the origin point of Goonswarm.
Goonswarm players originated from a hellhole called the Something Awful forums, a beautiful place of trolls, dicks, cyber hobgoblins and so on. Somewhere in 2006 they migrated to EVE Online with only one purpose: wreck the game.
Nope they came here to wreck your game, there's no point in them killing a game that they clearly enjoy.

Quote:
Example: I was out mining in nullsec when this Goon comes in a Sabre and blows up my ship. "No neutrals on Goonswarm turf", he said. Strange thing was that we were 48 jumps away from the GSF's borders. Second of all, they have absolutely no moral principles and no sense of reason.
You were in nullsec, he didn't need an excuse to blow you up, that he claimed you were on goonswarms turf is irrelevant.

Quote:
A friend of mine lost his Rhea to a Goonswarm suicide gank. "Why would they gank you? Your hold was empty", I asked.
Because it might not have been empty is as good an excuse as any, odds are that a JF is carrying something.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#37 - 2014-07-17 17:06:20 UTC
This reminds me of something.

All black people are drug dealers.
All jews are rich.
All -10 pilots are bad people.
All priests "love" children.


OP should be banned.

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Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-07-17 17:14:59 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
This reminds me of something.

All black people are drug dealers.
All jews are rich.
All -10 pilots are bad people.
All priests "love" children.


OP should be banned.

i think op meant that goonswarm has created a bunch of homophobic and racist material that they appear to be completely unapologetic about, not that every single goon is a nasty bigot. that doesn't make the thread any better, because it still seems to be less concerned with pointing out bigotry than it is with stirring up drama
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#39 - 2014-07-17 17:24:21 UTC
This thread is fundamentally anus.

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-07-17 17:37:33 UTC
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
goonswarm has created a bunch of homophobic and racist material that they appear to be completely unapologetic about


So what?

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