EVE General Discussion

Making it so that ecm is subject to some kind of stacking penalty sounds good to me.

It wont matter much regarding fleet fights (since people split up their jammers), but it will up the chances of overcoming ecm especially if you are solo (which is when you suffer the most from ecm atm). That would also be a nerf to ecm drones, and not mean guaranteed permajam if you get more than one flight of drones on you and you don't have a smartbomb.

guys... guys... falcons arnt overpowered because i fit mine with multis and plates then face tank brutixes.

no the issue isnt the fit gimping so much as over time (5-10 mins) you will still almost certainly get jammed. its still chance.

ECM was really annoying when the Falcon had 229km optimal. CCP nerfed it to - depending how you fit the Falcon - 60-77km with racials and a special group of ppl are still unhappy. Since this a Falcon is easy to kill. I am not talking about naive pilots looking for a fair 1v1 at top belt getting jammed by a Falcon alt and killed by the main. Especially for dual boxers the Falcon is one nice way to fight a fleet/gate camp at the high risk to lose two expensive ships. In a fleet a couple of Falcons are annyoing. But a blob is much more annoying. In EVE there are many annyoing situations. So what's the problem?

People still whine about this important mechanics. Important? Yes, as long as the game has other evil mechanics like logistics or neut ships ECM is one method to counter this if you can't bring the same logi setup.

I see no difference if you get killed by a blob or just by a just a Falcon and one ship. The result is the same: it's not fair.

And why should EVE be fair? It's impossible to make this game fair. And it would make no sense. You can't have the ultimate balance in a dynamic game getting more and more complex. You need to decide what to skill and what and how to fly. And live with the results.

Another problem is that people are stucked to their fittings and the usual combat style: engage, approach, orbit, watching mods and icons. It's easy to counter a Falcon in fleet engagements if a few pilots use ECCM or just focus on Falcons immediately when they show up at 60km. Drop ECM drones on them, bring a Rapier, Arazu, fit dual ECCM if your ship's mids allows this and they are frakked.

We are not playing a boring Arcade shooter.

This back and forth is funny. I'm relatively new to the game. But I do find being jammed is horrible. There is nothing you can do but watch the screen like you were in the middle of watching a sports game and all of the sudden your stuck watching some crappy commercial. A commercial of something you have no interest in at all.

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Yeah. That is what it feels like for me.

I feel ECM could be handled much better to make it a better mechanic overall.

As others have said before me, the biggest problem with ECM is how utterly boring it is as a mechanic, partly due to the frustration of not being able to do anything at all while being jammed but also for being so incredibly disincentivizing to small scale fights. I've lost count of the amount of fights that just havent happened because one or the other side had a bunch of ECM ships. "Screw it they have 2 x Falcons and a BB", anybody ever heard that before? ECM is an extremely ****** mechanic for the simple reason it prevents too many fights from happening imo.

Also, making ECM ever present by introducing ECM drones is probably one of the stupidest ideas ever conceived.

Just my humble opinion...