Ships & Modules

Don't use the Cerberus for long range. Yes, it can hit out to ~140km with good skills, but you are never going to break any kind of meaningful reps when redboxing someone is like putting in a two-weeks notice that you're going to shoot them. Hell, at that range a Battleship could just pulse it's MWD and warp out with time to spare.

Nagas are better as raw gun platforms but fold over quickly in the face of return fire and are very vulnerable to bombs.


The Eagle's combination of solid DPS with good projection and phenomenal EHP really does make it a remarkable line ship for midsized fleets that don't want to go full-hog and bust out Tengus. The real problem, as your post highlights indirectly, is that there really isn't anything short of a Battleship or a T3 that competes with Ishtars.

As a well-trained and well-experienced railgun and blaster pilot, I love the Eagle.

Despite my love for the platform, I never fly it anymore because, as mentioned above, for every role you can think to fly an Eagle in there is a better ship for that role. The closest it comes to a truly unique role anymore is mid-to-long-range anti-frigate sniper, but a Ferox will fill that role almost as well for a lot less, and it gains the benefit of being able to use a MJD or warfare links.

Until something is done about the Sentry Ishtar, the Eagle will always be a second-rate HAC.

Yup. The problem with the Eagle isn't the Eagle, it's the Sentry Ishtar. If the Sentry Ishtar couldn't hit out to 100km+, brawl, and kite all in the same fit, the Eagle would be far more viable.

Well, it can do 400DPS and hit out to silly ranges - just not both at once - needs an ammo change And not with a tank that is more than average.

400DPS is antimatter and that is at ranges ishtars are pushing over 600, whilst being faster and almost as tanky.

Bring it in to point blank and you want a Deimos, extend the range to anything inside max sentry range and you STILL want an Ishtar and over that range: hello on grid probing, +/- 10km

I actually agree with others, the problem IS the Ishtar, but any threads about it are getting locked as they are non-constructive so....yeah.

A bricked out AB Fleet Eagle can hit 110k EHP before boosts or heat while doing 480 dps at 40km. Nothing else in the HAC weight class comes close to that resilience and the damage output is solidly on par with anything that isn't a broken piece of ****. You aren't especially mobile but you are tremendous bricks that can put out respectable damage to most practical engagement ranges for your weight class, so just warp in at 40 and duke it out.

Don't try to build it into some 150km+ Spike platform because it's not really built for it and Spike isn't good enough to build ships around anyways.

I tend to roll in the small (<10) gang arena primarily; whilst the above sounds awesome in (my) reality, that 40km out will be covered extremely quickly and when they lose tracking it's all over. We usually wouldn't have the numbers to pin people down and use bounce BMs.

I wasn't suggesting that spike be used, just that it (technically) can breach 400dps and with an ammo swap still plink at 150km. God knows why you would.


Definitely agree with the damage output remark though, trouble is there are said broken things running about and times show no sign of change yet, thus my eagle remains a dusty special snowflake.

I think that even if everything else was fixed, it could stand to be a bit quicker.