Crime & Punishment

Woooooooooosh! Again you missed the point.

Yeah, we hang out around the stations and gates. You're upset because of how WE play the game?

You should first realize where you hang out before you scream out where others hangs around.


Yeah, it will show you that we have wars. But when you take into the picture that you said earlier that 50% of our wars are most likely not customer driven, then we actually have ALOT of customers when you see how long the war list is. When you said that earlier, i will prove you wrong by showing the list.

So, do you want the proof or not?


We are not poor at PVP. Do you know that there exists tons of different ways you can do PVP?

The fact that you think that there only exist one type of PVP is quite funny. And the fact that you only think there is one way you can be good at PVP is even more funnier. You can be good at solo PVP, you can be good at killing haulers, you can be good at killing POS'es, you can be good at fleet PVP and you can be good at suiciding. I'm good at inflicting huge amount of damage in isk to our war targets and i'm good or elite at killing whatever that turns up blinky.

You have to accept the fact that i can be good and elite at many things while you can be the same in other things. We are good / elite at different things. Oh also, empire wars is something i have done for aaaaaaaaages now, so i'm pretty sure i know what i'm doing. A cute carebear from 0.0 space telling me what's good or bad PVP is hilariously funny.


Yes, my killboard shows the fact that i'm doing PVP that you deny i'm doing. The killboard shows that i'm just doing my job in Marmite that is to kill stuffs no matter what the targets is.

There isn't any types of rules that says that this and that is considered PVP or not. As long as i'm killing a player that consists of a real player behind that player, it's called PVP (as PVP stands for player(s) versus player(s)). There isn't written anywhere that you have to kill selected types of things before it's taken as PVP. If i kill a station, it's not considered as PVP. If i kill a player in whatever ship, it's called PVP no matter if it's suicide or just pure fleet gank. As long as i (or with others in fleet) interfere with other humans and kill their ships, or if they kill me / us, it's defined as PVP.

You are ofc free to prove me wrong on this one with EVIDENCES on this. Not with your own trolling agenda.


And you think we haven't tried to get them happy?

We have tried it without success. That's why i'm saying we rather invest our time in our happy customers over the unhappy ones. And that's why i'm saying it will always be unhappy customers no matter what you do and no matter how much you try to be perfect.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise your first post was about kill whoring. I had misunderstood (or not read 'credited for the whole kill') and thought that you were under the impression the corporation sheet was multiplying kill values when numerous corp members were on a mail, as I'm an idiot.

Although, Tarsas's contribution was far more than simpling turning up with a point to whore the mail; which could probably be regarded as another weakness of killboards but that's caring about them far more than a person should.



To be fair, so did I.



Lucas flies logi.

Except marmite would run from your blob, where I would excitingly engage it. I prefer the excitement of a challenge compared to the dullness of killing rookie ships

Bring a fleet of more then 5 and your organized, marmite will retreat. They'll sperg up local with trash talk about how your blobbing when they outnumber your fleet 3 to 1 in local.

So combat and strategically speaking the are the worst mercs ever, but economically Freight club is their only saving grace.

Ok, then explain to me the point. I was making a statement to which you respond with an unrelated comment because you are crying over me mentioning a marmite member instead of a PL memebr in a PL operation. Go back to your bridge.

So just because we hang around stations and gates (where most of the fights happens anyways), we aren't good at what we are doing?

Maybe you should come to empire to actually educate yourself on where 95% of all fights happens before you cry out about stations and gate fights.

No, you aren't that good at what you are doing becuase a ganker can kill more than 50 times the amount you guys kill in the same safety without a wardec. It's also because you refuse to move out of pipes and hubs the majority of the time, so the counter to you is incredibly simple, just use hauling alts.

And when I say you aren't elite at empire PvP like you claim, it's because you refuse to accept that empire PvP is more than gate and station camping. Being elite at PvP would mean that when you face fair odds you win most of the time. I don;t claim to be or ever aspire to be an elite PvPer, but that doesn't mean I can't see when someone is clearly elite or clearly not. If you want to go and fill your killboard with more even fights and prove you are, then by all means be my guest, but filling it with more haulers doesn't show skill, sorry mate it just doesn't.

I'd say prove you had no logi and were fighting good odds. I don't think I've seen marmite go in without at least some neutral logi on field, so it would surprise me if you had none. I'd also wonder if they had enough firepower to drop a vindi in 60 seconds, or if you were tanked up enough to know you could deaggress (which isn't hard for a vindi).

The thing is you can say what you want in this situation. You could be like "yeah there were like a hundred of them and we killed a couple and they all ran away", but it could just as easily be bull. From your track record of talking **** I'd not give you the benefit of the doubt I'm afraid.

LOL no they don't, I mean for started most lowsec fight start at anoms and complexes, and most null fight will occur wherever the target happens to be, which is rarely just sitting at a station. Gate camps are the only exception. You'd die of boredom before getting a kill waiting outside most null stations.

In high sec you already have the police around to make sure you won;t get unexpected company, and you pick only the fight you know you can win and do so in locations you know you can escape if you need to. You rarely ever actually commit to a fight.

Btw I added an edit to my above.

Good advice that you yourself should take on board. I have to say you have a serious obsession with a pixel spaceship game that borders on the unhealthy. You should seek help.

I think you are getting yourself confused. Some fights will occur at stations where the station is being taken, but most null fight happen around infrastructure, not gates. You might see a gate on grid, since SBUs get put at gates, but they certainly aren't in activation range, so can't be used for evac. Capital battles you are unlikely to see near gates or stations.